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jwxie518 02-12-2019 10:47 PM

Calling on the Trump administration to allow DACA recipients to travel
 
https://www.ocregister.com/2019/02/1...travel-abroad/

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California Senators Dianne Feinstein and Kamala Harris joined a growing number in Congress calling on the Trump administration to allow DACA recipients to travel abroad – a campaign spearheaded by a Cal State Long Beach professor and Southern California immigrant youth.

In a letter sent Tuesday, Feb. 12, 36 legislators from both chambers asked for documents and information relating to the administration’s policy shift in 2017, when officials began denying requests from those with DACA status who want to travel abroad for work, study or to visit sick and elderly relatives.

A provision in U.S. immigration law called advance parole allows non-citizens with legal status to travel internationally for humanitarian, educational and employment purposes. And until 2017, the government allowed DACA holders permission to leave and re-enter the country.

“We write to urge you to reconsider your harmful position and request that you provide us with detailed information on DACA recipients’ eligibility for advance parole,” reads the letter to Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen and L. Francis Cissna, director of the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services.

The campaign to bring back advance parole for those who are protected under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, or DACA, has its roots in Southern California. Cal State Long Beach professor Armando Vazquez-Ramos, founder of the non-profit California-Mexico Studies Center, took a delegation of some 20 DACA holders to Washington D.C. last month to host a seminar on the topic and meet with legislators.

“This is a huge step forward and a direct result derived by our campaign to restore advance parole,” Vazquez-Ramos said Tuesday.

“We’re poised to return to D.C. during the spring for the second phase of the campaign with 50 Dreamers from throughout the U.S.,” he said.

Rep. Alan Lowenthal, D-Long Beach, is spearheading the effort in the House of Representatives to restore the travel rights for DACA recipients, and he has participated in “Advance Parole,” a documentary made by a Chapman University graduate student, Lidieth Arevalo. Her film includes stories like that of Mayra Garibo, a Cal State Dominguez Hills student who tried to visit her father in Mexico but was denied. Garibo’s father was unexpectedly killed in a car accident and she requested again advance parole on humanitarian grounds so she could go to his funeral. She was denied again.

Other local House members who signed the letter were: Nanette Barragan, D-San Pedro, Gil Cisneros, D-Yorba Linda, Lou Correa, D-Santa Ana, Jimmy Gomez, D-Los Angeles, Mike Levin, D-Dana Point, Linda Sanchez, D-Norwalk.

jwxie518 02-12-2019 10:47 PM

Re: Calling on the Trump administration to allow DACA recipients to travel
 
This is it! This is our chance! GC FOR Year 6022.

libertarian1776 02-12-2019 10:52 PM

Re: Calling on the Trump administration to allow DACA recipients to travel
 
bro r u really leaving at the end of this yr?

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Originally Posted by jwxie518 (Post 732926)
This is it! This is our chance! GC FOR Year 6022.


jwxie518 02-12-2019 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 732927)
bro r u really leaving at the end of this yr?

Possible. Dreamer__13 tried to persuade me!

TexasDreamy 02-12-2019 11:03 PM

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Jesus Christ, I would be happy with just eternal DACA :|

Red neck 02-12-2019 11:04 PM

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http://www.advanceparole.org

Sign the petition, donate and share. This was what I was posting last month

isk84life 02-12-2019 11:15 PM

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No way this happens. Miller is too smart to open up that backdoor for us. But I hope I’m wrong! Let’s do this!

IbelieveIcanFly 02-12-2019 11:17 PM

Re: Calling on the Trump administration to allow DACA recipients to travel
 
Dreamers dream on! Someday it will happen, just not in our life time.

cmeow 02-12-2019 11:18 PM

Re: Calling on the Trump administration to allow DACA recipients to travel
 
It is a waste of time. You're asking DHS & Trump to expand the current DACA program but even worse, it's the loop hole people use to adjust status.

Come on we need to concentrate efforts on legalization, this is a distraction.

georgeb1214 02-13-2019 12:01 AM

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I need to visit my uncle who is on dialysis and my aunt that has cancer. I really need to visit them. Please pray for my family.

2MoreYears 02-13-2019 12:03 AM

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Asking too much. Hopefully it won't back fire.

Kudos if it successes.

cmeow 02-13-2019 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by georgeb1214 (Post 732935)
I need to visit my uncle who is on dialysis and my aunt that has cancer. I really need to visit them. Please pray for my family.

Sorry to hear that. I hope they get better.

Outsider626 02-13-2019 12:05 AM

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Advance parole is pain in the ass. You need to lie in order to travel and there is still a risk they will not let you get back to US.

Michcio07 02-13-2019 12:08 AM

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Sounds like this might happen Democrats will be like SEE WE WON now you can travel sometime, and they won't give a shit cuz we will all be DACA until we get married or die.

JJ Glo 02-13-2019 12:19 AM

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LMAO

Just what we needed. Dems don't expect to act on DACA anytime soon so they're now pushing to bring AP back.

ExMachina 02-13-2019 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Outsider626 (Post 732938)
Advance parole is pain in the ass. You need to lie in order to travel and there is still a risk they will not let you get back to US.

This. AP is something Goodlatte would've written into a bill if it weren't for the loophole to adjust.

Wouldn't surprise me if Trump pushed for AP simply to deny us reentry and claim people who weren't able to come back were "found to be MS13 affiliated".

Demise 02-13-2019 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Outsider626 (Post 732938)
Advance parole is pain in the ass. You need to lie in order to travel and there is still a risk they will not let you get back to US.

You don't have to lie, everyone has some relative that's dead or almost in the dirt. Personally I would've preferred it if they didn't require any evidence like with basically anyone else who can get it, all of the other people who can get it (AOS applicants, TPS holders, parolees under 212(d)(5)) also require an "urgent humanitarian reason" but in those cases they don't have to prove anything.

jwxie518 02-13-2019 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Demise (Post 732945)
You don't have to lie, everyone has some relative that's dead or almost in the dirt. Personally I would've preferred it if they didn't require any evidence like with basically anyone else who can get it, all of the other people who can get it (AOS applicants, TPS holders, parolees under 212(d)(5)) also require an "urgent humanitarian reason" but in those cases they don't have to prove anything.

Not everyone...

Demise 02-13-2019 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jwxie518 (Post 732946)
Not everyone...

Don't have a grave abroad that you need to put flowers on? Did you mysteriously materialize fully formed?

jwxie518 02-13-2019 01:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Demise (Post 732947)
Don't have a grave abroad that you need to put flowers on? Did you mysteriously materialize fully formed?

Sure. Someone died 10 years ago and we can claimed that humanitarian?

DACA-IR-DA 02-13-2019 01:32 AM

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Some relief for aged out Dreamers would be nice.

Pianoswithoutfaith 02-13-2019 01:33 AM

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What happened to the all DAP Reddie Hats?

catportal 02-13-2019 03:53 AM

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What incentive does Trump have to do ANYTHING when Dems always give up leverage? Remember first budget in sept, then CR to nov, then Nancy said 100% by end of the year, then fake 30 hour weekend shutdown in exchange for a "promise to vote" and now giving away free wall? When does it end?

ExMachina 02-13-2019 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by catportal (Post 732955)
What incentive does Trump have to do ANYTHING when Dems always give up leverage? Remember first budget in sept, then CR to nov, then Nancy said 100% by end of the year, then fake 30 hour weekend shutdown in exchange for a "promise to vote" and now giving away free wall? When does it end?

Same incentive Dems have when he fails to commit to any compromises. They're controlling the narrative by keeping the government running, anything Trump does to disrupt that costs him in the polls and with his retard supporters.

Public opinion lambasted Dems when they held out for Dreamers. The sad, unfortunate truth is even while most Americans sympathize with us, they care more about themselves.

Red neck 02-13-2019 09:22 AM

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Friendship park

sign the petition

https://www.change.org/p/donald-trum...-on-the-border

Red neck 02-13-2019 09:54 AM

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Donate here for the spring initiative

https://www.crowdrise.com/o/en/campa...arole-campaign

tays123 02-13-2019 10:16 AM

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This is the most ridiculous thing that people are wasting their times on...

Even if you are given AP, it is not 100% certain that you will be allowed back into the country. Why would anyone want to take the risk to leave the country when this administration is running things?! They could have an internal memo or something passed on through word of mouth that says not to allow any DACA recipient back into the country.

There are more dire issues we need to be concerned about... For example, what is going to happen when the Supreme court finally rules on our case? If DACA gets killed by the Supreme court then we are totally screwed. We saw how neither the Democrats nor the Republicans did not even really care about close to a Million USC during the shutdown. What makes you people think that they will care if the Supreme court kills DACA. ... Another issue is the aged out Dreamers, they never got any relief. How about them? ... And the third issue is the younger generation of Dreamers that cannot even apply for DACA. How about them?

This whole AP thing is just preposterous.

Red neck 02-13-2019 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by tays123 (Post 732964)
This is the most ridiculous thing that people are wasting their times on...

Even if you are given AP, it is not 100% certain that you will be allowed back into the country. Why would anyone want to take the risk to leave the country when this administration is running things?! They could have an internal memo or something passed on through word of mouth that says not to allow any DACA recipient back into the country.

There are more dire issues we need to be concerned about... For example, what is going to happen when the Supreme court finally rules on our case? If DACA gets killed by the Supreme court then we are totally screwed. We saw how neither the Democrats nor the Republicans did not even really care about close to a Million USC during the shutdown. What makes you people think that they will care if the Supreme court kills DACA. ... Another issue is the aged out Dreamers, they never got any relief. How about them? ... And the third issue is the younger generation of Dreamers that cannot even apply for DACA. How about them?

This whole AP thing is just preposterous.

If they restore it I will take my chances..

Nothing is going to get done now until the supreme court rules.
Either they give us something or give us nothing but we will finally get an answer.

JJ Glo 02-13-2019 10:58 AM

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This is the Democrat's way of kissing ass....hey guys, look, we still care, we're fighting to bring AP back!

Red neck 02-13-2019 11:25 AM

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The Trump administration is preventing DACA recipients from visiting sick and dying family members overseas or participating in study/work abroad programs. This is a cruel policy that the administration can and must reverse.

Red neck 02-13-2019 11:31 AM

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February 12, 2019

The Honorable Kirstjen Nielsen
Secretary
U.S. Department of Homeland Security

The Honorable L. Francis Cissna
Director
U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services

Dear Secretary Nielsen and Director Cissna:

When the Trump administration announced on September 5, 2017 that it intended to terminate the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, the futures of hundreds of thousands of young Americans and the wellbeing of our communities were put at risk. Federal courts have since ordered the government to maintain the program for current DACA recipients. Unfortunately, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) have prevented DACA recipients from receiving advance parole to allow them to travel internationally to visit sick and elderly family members, study, or work, as they previously were permitted to do. DHS and USCIS officials have not accounted for their failure to exercise their lawful discretion. We write to urge you to reconsider your harmful position and request that you provide us with detailed information on DACA recipients’ eligibility for advance parole.

Since the DACA program was established in 2012, it has provided over 800,000 young people who arrived in this country as children temporary protection from deportation, allowing them to pursue higher education and lawfully work. DACA recipients have made essential contributions to critical U.S. industries, including education and health care, founded small businesses, and invested in and enriched American communities. Prior to September 5, 2017, USCIS exercised its discretion under its statutory authority to issue eligible DACA applicants advance parole documents to allow them to travel abroad for humanitarian, educational, and employment purposes and return to the U.S., weighing particular circumstances of each request on a case-by-case basis.

USCIS’ failure to continue to allow DACA recipients to apply for advance parole has cruelly denied them opportunities to address personal emergencies. Critical advance parole requests that USCIS has failed to consider include DACA recipients seeking to obtain specialized medical treatment, to visit a dying family member, or to attend funeral services of loved ones outside of the U.S. For example, Mayra Garibo—a DACA recipient studying at California State University, Dominquez Hills—who applied for advance parole before September 5, 2017 but whose application USCIS never approved because of the policy shift, was unable to visit her father in Mexico before he died in January 2018 following 20 years of separation. Mayra’s farther was the primary caregiver for her grandparents, who are now both sick and whom she cannot visit and care for. In another unfortunate example of the harm of USCIS’ policy, in 2018, DACA recipient Angel Martinez—who was diagnosed with terminal acute lymphoblastic leukemia—faced an impossible dilemma of choosing between saying goodbye to his family in Mexico or receiving appropriate palliative medical care to ease his pain in the U.S.

Further, USCIS’ failure to continue to allow DACA recipients to apply for advance parole senselessly prohibits them from participating in educational enrichment and professional development opportunities abroad, including study abroad programs, overseas seminars, conferences, and training sessions. It also limits their ability to work with international clients. Leading education experts emphasize how participation in study abroad programs fosters respect among individuals of diverse backgrounds, develops next generation leadership, and contributes to a more interconnected, secure, and prosperous country. Denying DACA recipients an opportunity to travel internationally for study and work is detrimental not only to their personal and professional wellbeing but also undermines the strength of the American economy to which they are contributing their knowledge and skills. As one extraordinary example of the harm of USCIS’ policy, Harvard student Jin Park—the first DACA recipient to be awarded the prestigious Rhodes Scholarship—is being forced to contemplate leaving the U.S. to pursue an advanced degree at the University of Oxford in the U.K. with knowledge he likely cannot return upon competition of his studies.

In light of the strong benefits that access to advance parole has provided and could continue to provide DACA recipients and American communities, we request that DHS and USCIS jointly respond within 30 days to the following:


1. Please provide a detailed explanation about why USCIS has failed to exercise its lawful discretion to allow DACA recipients to apply for or receive advance parole for humanitarian, educational, and employment purposes since September 5, 2017.

2. Please clarify if USCIS is now treating DACA recipients differently than other deferred action recipients with respect to advance parole applications, and if so, provide an explanation, including how other advance parole applications are adjudicated.

3. Please provide complete documentation of any research and analysis DHS and USCIS have conducted since 2012 about benefits to individuals, educational institutions, employers, and the American economy of allowing DACA recipient to apply for advance parole.

4. Please provide complete written documentation of DHS and USCIS policy relating to advance parole applications and adjudications from DACA recipients since January 2017, including all research and analysis informing the policy shift since September 5, 2017.

5. Please provide complete written documentation on guidance and training provided to USCIS employees regarding adjudications of advance parole applications from DACA recipients and communications with DACA recipients about advance parole and international travel, including on advising DACA recipients about risks to their DACA status of travel abroad, since January 2017.

6. Please provide complete written documentation on USCIS policies, procedures, and processes to inform DACA recipients who submitted advance parole applications prior to September 5, 2017 about the status of their applications, including issuance of notices of intent to deny and final decisions to deny, and to refund their application fees following the policy shift.

7. Please provide complete written documentation on USCIS policies, procedures, and processes to inform DACA recipients who submitted advance parole applications after September 5, 2017 about the status of their applications, including issuance of notices of intent to deny and final decisions to deny, and to refund their application fees following the policy shift.

8. Please provide the total annual number of applications USCIS received from DACA recipients for advance parole, broken down by humanitarian, educational, or employment purposes, as well as the number of such applications approved, respectively, during each fiscal year from 2012-2018. Please also provide a monthly breakdown of this data.

9. Please provide the total number of applications USCIS received from DACA recipients for humanitarian parole as well as the number of such applications approved since September 5, 2017.

We thank you for your attention to this matter and look forward to your prompt response.

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https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/pub...8-552560C5AE3B




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ExMachina 02-13-2019 11:41 AM

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These petitions are a joke. He doesn't listen or care, you'd have a better shot at convincing Richard Spencer to let us stay.

The ONE thing he relented on was child separations, that's how low the bar is.

tays123 02-13-2019 11:58 AM

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Yes. The bar is very low. And yes, these petitions are preposterous.

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Originally Posted by ExMachina (Post 732973)
These petitions are a joke. He doesn't listen or care, you'd have a better shot at convincing Richard Spencer to let us stay.

The ONE thing he relented on was child separations, that's how low the bar is.


Demise 02-13-2019 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jwxie518 (Post 732948)
Sure. Someone died 10 years ago and we can claimed that humanitarian?

Listen, you can claim whatever you want, you can claim that being unable to get laid and hookers being relatively clean and cheap abroad as a humanitarian reason, it would still be up to the agent adjudicating your application whether to approve or deny it.

jwxie518 02-13-2019 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Demise (Post 733022)
Listen, you can claim whatever you want, you can claim that being unable to get laid and hookers being relatively clean and cheap abroad as a humanitarian reason, it would still be up to the agent adjudicating your application whether to approve or deny it.

Listen, you can talk dirty all you want. No one is stupid enough (oh perhaps just you) to send in AP with a check to claim their humanitarian reason is to visit a dead relative who died 10 years ago.

libertarian1776 02-13-2019 07:57 PM

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dang bro, i thought you like it like that? ;)

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Originally Posted by jwxie518 (Post 733060)
Listen, you can talk dirty all you want.



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