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Swim19 01-22-2021 06:44 PM

Stalemate over filibuster freezes Congress
 
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and Mitch McConnell's inability to quickly strike a deal on a power-sharing agreement in the new 50-50 Congress is slowing down everything from the confirmation of President Biden's nominees to Donald Trump's impeachment trial.

Why it matters: Whatever final stance Schumer takes on the stalemate, which largely comes down to Democrats wanting to use the legislative filibuster as leverage over Republicans, will be a signal of the level of hardball we should expect Democrats to play with Republicans in the new Senate.

The holdups: Everything being done in the Senate right now is operating on unanimous consent agreements, which can only work for so long and won't fly when Democrats try to pass serious legislation, like a forthcoming pandemic relief bill.

The committee ratios are currently in favor of Republicans, and Democrats need the power sharing accord to sort out the new committee make-ups and chairmen.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says she is waiting to send the article of impeachment against Trump to the Senate until the organizing resolution is completed (a similar posture she insisted on in Trump's first impeachment trial).

State of play: McConnell and the GOP conference want an upfront commitment from Democrats that they will not try to eliminate the 60-vote legislative threshold and hold it over their heads during negotiations over the next two-plus years.

Many Senate Republicans have begun circulating a bipartisan letter from 2017 signed by 61 senators, including then-Senator Kamala Harris, who supported upholding the filibuster when Republicans ruled both chambers of Congress and the White House.

What they're saying: “I think at the moment, it’s a little bit stalled out, but I hope they can get back on track," Senate Republican Whip John Thune (S.D.) said of the status of the sharing agreement. "Obviously the big issue was the legislative filibuster."

Centrist Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.V.): “Chuck has the right to do what he’s doing. He has the right to use [the filibuster] to leverage in whatever he wants to do. .... They’re not going to grind this place to a halt."

Sen. John Barrasso (R-Wyo.): “There was a letter that Sens. Collins and Coons generated [in] 2017 when, at the time, President Trump was calling for an elimination of the filibuster pretty forcefully ... senators said ‘no, we should not change that, we should continue with the legislative filibuster.’"

https://www.axios.com/schumer-mcconn...ff3cb006c.html

Smooth 01-22-2021 06:56 PM

Re: Stalemate over filibuster freezes Congress
 
Dems should really play hardball

jwxie518 01-22-2021 06:57 PM

Re: Stalemate over filibuster freezes Congress
 
Quote:

The committee ratios are currently in favor of Republicans, and Democrats need the power sharing accord to sort out the new committee make-ups and chairmen.
Can someone plz explain why? I thought the majority party holds chairmanship? How does the ratio make up get deteremined and when do committees re-elect membership?

DreamerSD23 01-22-2021 07:22 PM

Re: Stalemate over filibuster freezes Congress
 
McConnell is over-playing his hand here.

If he keeps this up, the filibuster will be gone for sure and gives Schumer and Democrats a lot of political capital.

Schumer is the Majority Leader and he needs to act like one, can't take threats from McConnell like McConnell is still somehow leader.

vft1008 01-22-2021 07:26 PM

Re: Stalemate over filibuster freezes Congress
 
How cute. The Republicans want fairness and decency from the Dems:
Quote:

State of play: McConnell and the GOP conference want an upfront commitment from Democrats that they will not try to eliminate the 60-vote legislative threshold and hold it over their heads during negotiations over the next two-plus years.
Too bad the Dems don't have the balls to play dirty now that they have a chance.

Imthexman 01-22-2021 07:48 PM

Re: Stalemate over filibuster freezes Congress
 
Ultimately is up to Schumer and the other 49 dems if they want to kill the filibuster, and if they do, bitch McConnell, McCarthy and even Biden can't do anything about it.

Got_Daca 01-22-2021 08:08 PM

Re: Stalemate over filibuster freezes Congress
 
Fking kill it

Give us 3 year path to citizenship

We will move to TX and turn it blue by 2024

cooltalker 01-22-2021 08:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 756249)
Fking kill it

Give us 3 year path to citizenship

We will move to TX and turn it blue by 2024

This!

Imthexman 01-22-2021 08:25 PM

Re: Stalemate over filibuster freezes Congress
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 756249)
Fking kill it

Give us 3 year path to citizenship

We will move to TX and turn it blue by 2024

lol, Texas ag is already trying to get rid of Biden's 100 day deportation halt. I see more daca lawsuits coming soon.


https://www.kxan.com/news/texas-poli...-QEOFfrc6hDOjI

FLDreamerrr 01-22-2021 08:52 PM

Re: Stalemate over filibuster freezes Congress
 
Joe Manchin gonna turn on us watch he’s going to be the most important one with the most power now


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