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lilbawler2001 04-17-2009 09:55 AM
Mark Warner Opposes the dream act
 
Quote:
Among the other subjects at the town hall meeting was the proposed Dream Act.
The bill provides a path to U.S. citizenship for youth who have entered the country illegally.
Under the proposal, they could get conditional legal status by earning a high school diploma or its equivalent.
If in six years, they graduate from a college or trade school, or join the military, they would become permanent residents and could move toward citizenship.
Immigrant advocate Sam Nickels said he knew of a person who was the child of undocumented immigrants when she came to the United States.
Despite graduating from college, Nickels said, she was unable to find work because she could not get a Social Security number.
But Warner said he opposed the Dream Act because the proposal made the path to citizenship too easy. The nation's laws must be followed, he said.
While better border enforcement is needed, Warner said, business owners also must be given an easier way to check a potential employee's immigration status.
http://www.dnronline.com/news_detail...D=37155&CHID=1

WTF is wrong with him? Never expected this from him.

Alex 04-17-2009 10:34 AM
Re: Mark Warner Opposes the dream act
 
great, that's a YES vote that we lost i suppose. to all of you who keep saying revisions or amendments shouldn't be added/changed; people are not stupid... 2 years in the military or college and staying out of trouble; is not hard. some of us are already finished with college.

what senator Durbin introduced is a proposed bill. the actual one; no one knows how its gonna look like. that is why bills are debated before a final vote.

manindark 04-17-2009 11:58 AM
Re: Mark Warner Opposes the dream act
 
john warner didn't vote for dream act...this guy is not a true democrat

myloveisaverb 04-17-2009 12:26 PM
Re: Mark Warner Opposes the dream act
 
But Warner said he opposed the Dream Act because the proposal made the path to citizenship too easy.

Don't these people realize that all they had to do to become US citizens was to simply slide out their mother's uterus. US citizenship for the US born isn't a right that was earned, but rather, something given. The provisions of the Dream Act is an opportunity for dreamies to earn legal status, it is not a hand out. No matter what, the requirements will still be much harder than simply being born on US land.

jarmy25 04-17-2009 01:10 PM
Re: Mark Warner Opposes the dream act
 
i gotta say this regardless of the requirments to qualify for dream act, one can always get deported for commiting crime in this country, even if you are a citizen, but we haven't commit any crime imtentionally and if this guy says that dream act would make very easy for us become citizen and thats why he is not supporting dream act. i think he really needs to think again because our struggle needs better understanding by others and by doing so we are not respecting the constitution then what happen to the humanity.......

CIR_DREAM2009 04-17-2009 01:23 PM
Re: Mark Warner Opposes the dream act
 
Quote:
While better border enforcement is needed, Warner said, business owners also must be given an easier way to check a potential employee's immigration status.
Perhaps if E-Verify reform and permanent extension is attached to a stand alone Dream, then he might change his mind. We still don't know if Dream will be stand alone or be part of CIR so we'll see what comes up in the next few months.

ehfornue 04-17-2009 01:50 PM
Re: Mark Warner Opposes the dream act
 
Too easy?

WTF! What do I have to do? Swim through a lake filled with crocodiles, climb Mt. Everest, donate a leg and a kidney, find the holy grail, and invent a time machine to go back in time and punch *Mark*Warner* in the face when he turns 13 and remind him to support DA in 2009? This is bullshit, Fuck! im pissed off.

Alex 04-17-2009 01:54 PM
Re: Mark Warner Opposes the dream act
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CIR_DREAM2009 (Post 125422)
Perhaps if E-Verify reform and permanent extension is attached to a stand alone Dream, then he might change his mind. We still don't know if Dream will be stand alone or be part of CIR so we'll see what comes up in the next few months.
I agree with you... there's many things that opposing senators would like to add to the bill in order for them to vote for it. you all forget that these people are lawmakers; their not just some hill billy racist fucks (some of them are).

we cannot get selfish and demand w/e we want. if a senator wants us to pay a fine in order for him to support the bill; then let it be. as long as our path to citizenship is still there.

to the comment : Don't these people realize that all they had to do to become US citizens was to simply slide out their mother's uterus. US citizenship for the US born isn't a right that was earned, but rather, something given."

well you have to become a citizen through birth, that's why your from (insert country)... and not from the U.S.

many people who enter legally don't have to earn anything either. people that are being sponsored don't have to earn it either. lottery winners don't have to earn it either. BUT were not them... as the current law stands, they can kick all our asses back home.

WE are asking for the law to change just for us. if the times were right, Dream Act would've passed a long time ago. but the time right now makes it harder.

so stop demanding shyt, we were kids when they brought us here, but now were responsible adults. life dealt us these cards, we gotta play with what we got.

ehfornue 04-17-2009 02:00 PM
Re: Mark Warner Opposes the dream act
 
^ Fuck that!^

I'm demanding DA and CIR, like slaves demanded freedom!

Alex 04-17-2009 02:15 PM
Re: Mark Warner Opposes the dream act
 
well slaves didn't have a risk of being deported... and allot of African Americans today are against us... keep demanding like that and you're gonna grow old doing it.

they passed the 86' amnesty and it failed. even chewbaca knows that they are right about that. what in the Dream act guarantees these people that 10 years from now not another Dreamies like us will want another path to citizenship for being here illegally?

we have to be realistic and think like adults.


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