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dreamy14 01-30-2010 08:55 PM

Will immigration reform come to pass?
 
Remember that one sentence Obama coughed in SOTU about immigration? :confused: Apparently there's some possitivity to it.....motivation I guess.
Here's the article: http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/news...rm_come_t.html

Quote:

Will immigration reform come to pass?
Posted by William Gibson on January 29, 2010 02:47 PM

The White House and Senate leaders are preparing for a legislative struggle this spring to pass comprehensive immigration reforms, several advocates told reporters on Friday.


Frank SharryThe package most likely would combine intense enforcement at the borders and workplaces with a path to legal status for millions of unauthorized immigrants.

Reformers see a flurry of activity behind closed doors while the Obama administration and key senators say little in public that might draw a backlash from the Right and scare off moderates in Congress.

The strategy, they think, is to unveil a bill in the Senate, pass it quickly, and create momentum that would carry over to the House.

The issue is especially important in Florida, home to big immigrant communities including a million unauthorized foreigners. Reform gets support from both parties in the state but stiff opposition from many conservatives.

Proponents in Washington acknowledge they’ve suffered setbacks because of the Republican victory in a Massachusetts Senate race, the dire economy and the slow and troubled path of health-care reform.

“You are hearing more and more scared Democrats saying, either publicly or privately, `Do we really want to talk about immigration? Do we want to just talk about jobs? And wouldn’t it be nice if that issue (immigration) would just go away this year?” noted Frank Sharry, director of America’s Voice, a leading advocate for reform.


“Other Democrats are saying, `We really have to follow through on this issue, it’s important for the economy, it’s important for Latino voters…’”

Obama angered many advocates by his scant reference to their issue in his State of the Union address. Here’s what he said: “We should continue the work of fixing our broken immigration system -– to secure our borders and enforce our laws, and ensure that everyone who plays by the rules can contribute to our economy and enrich our nation.”

Just a few words, with no mention of “comprehensive reform” or a path to legalization.

“We were not happy with the drive-by mention of immigration reform,” Sharry said. “In a 7,000-word speech it came in at about word 6,300. We thought he might actually cough when he mentioned immigration.”

But Sharry said the White House “is moving full-speed ahead.” He pointed to meetings at the highest levels to prepare for an immigration debate. Leaders of the Senate Judiciary Committee, meanwhile, are negotiating over a bill.

The time for action is short. Reformers would like to see a bill passed before this year’s election campaign clouds the issue.

Expect to see and hear fervent demonstrations over the next few weeks in Florida and Washington from Hispanics and immigrants pressing for change.

“They know that if they don’t demand it, it’s not going to happen,” Sharry said.

we need a reform 01-30-2010 09:37 PM

Re: Will immigration reform come to pass?
 
God Bless U..........

jamesp 01-30-2010 09:46 PM

Re: Will immigration reform come to pass?
 
this article made me smile. Frank Sharry is an insider. If he says 'Reformers see a flurry of activity behind closed doors', most likely it's true! He knows what's going on behind the curtains.

Novela 01-30-2010 09:50 PM

Re: Will immigration reform come to pass?
 
A tad bit of hope in the article. I really do hope that they ARE dilligently working on it behind closed doors, and that they reach a consensus between republicans and democrats in the Senate before introducing the bill. If they do the whole debate beforehand, they can just introduce the bill and jump to voting immediatelly. When the bill passes the Senate, I don't think it should have much problem passing the House. With all of Pelosi's talk that she wants to see the Senate take action so the House can follow, I'll personally stab her if the House puts up any kind of fight with this bill.

Now, I just worry about a few things... first of all, are we mobilizing and making our voices heard enough to demand this reform be passed asap? We can't let the same thing from 2007 happen again. When it was so close, it was shot down. I just worry that we have to do more, do all we can, and a little more after that. Bless those three walking the Trail of Dreams, I have a feeling they will have a huge part in this. The WA protest, if enough people show up, could press Congress a good amount. What else? What else?

I also worry about the House's version of CIR. Are they just gonna drop it like it was nothing and accept the Senate's version? Or are they gonna put up a fight to change something? What makes us so sure everyone will agree on one thing? I'll throw a fit if they do that, I swear.

Also, we know that the House's CIR is pretty much the complete package for us. But what if the Senate's isn't? What if there's something major missing? I don't think they'd leave DA out, but what if they wanna change major stuff, like the age the person came to the US or how old you have to be to apply for the benefits? I think this is the least likely to happen, but it's still something to think about.

EDIT: I worry about these things because our time is literally running out. They have to do things in the shadows for now, so that when it comes out it'll pass as quickly as possible. If it begins to stall too much, or if it needs any kind of debate or whatever, we run a serious risk of it just being dropped, because everyone in Congress will begin to think too much about the stupid elections.

dreamy14 01-30-2010 10:02 PM

Re: Will immigration reform come to pass?
 
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Originally Posted by Novela
The WA protest, if enough people show up, could press Congress a good amount.

Call me uninformed or dense, but when exactly is it??

2Face 01-30-2010 10:05 PM

Re: Will immigration reform come to pass?
 
Things are looking good for us I must say. Immigration is an issue which is too big to ignore and the current administration understands that. Also, the Immigration debate will not be very controversial like the Health Care debate. We have plenty of support from the Republican party. I'm expecting a bill to be rolled out within the next couple of weeks!!

Novela 01-30-2010 10:07 PM

Re: Will immigration reform come to pass?
 
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Originally Posted by dreamy14 (Post 150184)
Call me uninformed or dense, but when exactly is it??

http://dreamact.info/forum/showthread.php?t=13689

I have a feeling not many people check the Taking Action forum these days... hah.
If I remember well it's March 21st.

exaltedkernal 01-31-2010 01:10 AM

Re: Will immigration reform come to pass?
 
Wow, this made my day.

dreamy14 01-31-2010 03:20 AM

Re: Will immigration reform come to pass?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Novela (Post 150186)
http://dreamact.info/forum/showthread.php?t=13689

I have a feeling not many people check the Taking Action forum these days... hah.
If I remember well it's March 21st.

You know what's funny, I actually checked that forum right before I came here.
Oooopss...lol
thanks for the link hun :-P

And yes, it sure is a positive article. It makes me thing of something I've read here in the forum about politicians who are pro-CIR not wanting a lot of publicity on the subject because when it gets too big, negativity starts to accumulate....like health care reform. Maybe Obama purposely left out immigration on his long speech for a reason.
Who knows?!

ari88 01-31-2010 04:19 AM

Re: Will immigration reform come to pass?
 
"We thought he might actually cough when he mentioned immigration.” LoL That is so true !! It makes my day.. well my tomorrow (since today's almost over) knowing that it wasn't only us that noticed how Obama barely mentioned immigration. I really do hope that their plan is to pass CIR quietly and quickly. More hope..


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