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lilbawler2001 07-08-2010 10:41 AM

Hatch talks immigration at Layton town hall meeting
 
Quote:

LAYTON -- Sen. Orrin Hatch attended a town meeting in Layton Wednesday night and touched on the topic of immigration.
While Hatch says he's against amnesty for children of illegal immigrants he supports a bill called the DREAM Act, which stands for Development Relief and Education for Alien Minors.
"With regard to the DREAM Act, a lot of these kids are brought in as infants. They don't even know that they're not citizens until they graduate from high school," Hatch said. "If they've lived good lives, if they've done good things, why would we penalize them and not let them at least go to school?"
The DREAM Act could lead to conditional permanent residency for qualified immigrants.
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=11478027

With all his recent anti-immigrant statements against immigration reform etc, I'm glad he is still on board.

VicTheWick 07-08-2010 11:56 AM

Re: Hatch talks immigration at Layton town hall meeting
 
"With regard to the DREAM Act, a lot of these kids are brought in as infants. They don't even know that they're not citizens until they graduate from high school," Hatch said. "If they've lived good lives, if they've done good things, why would we penalize them and not let them at least go to school?"

At least go to school and then what? Kids go to school anyway...

rock steady 07-08-2010 12:49 PM

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Damn, we haven't heard a peep from Hatch in so long. It's amazing that he was once the principal sponsor of DREAM.

ECW 07-08-2010 01:00 PM

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So that's 2 guarantee "Yes Republican" votes for DREAM Hatch and Lugar. There is no doubt that we can rely on 2 other Republican votes in the senate, Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe. We got the numbers, 4 solid republican votes.

SuperGSPorty 07-08-2010 01:26 PM

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Yay! Republican Support :D

angie123 07-08-2010 02:37 PM

Re: Hatch talks immigration at Layton town hall meeting
 
So how many more senators do we need? 8 more total?

SuperGSPorty 07-08-2010 03:12 PM

Re: Hatch talks immigration at Layton town hall meeting
 
idk about sponsors bc when they debated as standalone they had only 4 senators
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquer...p?n=BSS;c=110|

angie123 07-08-2010 03:23 PM

Re: Hatch talks immigration at Layton town hall meeting
 
We gained alot of momentum then compared to 2007! I hope it's 2010!

californiadreamer 07-08-2010 03:40 PM

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I'm glad he's still on board. Hopefully, we can get more Republican supporters and Blue Dog Democrats to jump in.

dtrt09 07-08-2010 04:01 PM

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http://immigration.change.org/blog/v...s_vs_democrats

Immigration Reform Isn't About Republicans vs. Democrats
by Prerna Lal

President Obama and the Democratic Party establishment would certainly like immigrant communities to think that they are the party of civil rights for all and that Republicans are acting like obstructionists. But the picture is far more hazy than that.

"Immigration reform has fallen victim to congressional inaction and poor excuses," says Marisol Ramos, co-founder of the New York Youth Leadership Council.

After all, when did Republicans become the party of racists that hate immigrants? There's virtually no difference between former Republican President George Bush and Barack Obama in terms of their immigration policies: both Presidents support an earned legalization program with tough border security and enforcement measures while criminalizing immigrant communities with programs such as 287 (g) and Secure Communities.
Think back to the 1960s civil rights era. Democrats, including President Lyndon B. Johnson, are credited with passing crucial incremental bills such as the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. But more Republicans supported these reforms than Democrats, by virtue of numbers and geography. 61 percent of Democratic lawmakers voted for the Civil Rights Act (152-96), while a full 80 percent of the Republican caucus supported it (138-34). The primary reason for this is that opposition mainly came from Southern lawmakers who were overwhelmingly Democrat.

A similar geographic alignment may decide how Republicans and Democrats vote on any immigration reform bill, short of partisan politics. The Maine Republicans — Senator Olympia Snowe and Senator Susan Collins — are widely expected to cast affirmative votes in favor of legislation such as the DREAM Act, while Democrats from Southern states, such as Senator Mark Pryor (AK), and states without many recent immigrant populations, like Senator Max Baucus (MO), are likely to need more concessions.

There is indeed, a lack of Republican support for a CIR bill in this pre-midterm election climate, but that also mirrors the unwillingness of Democrats to move forward with anything concrete.

Widespread Latino disenchantment with the Democratic Party provides the GOP a historic opportunity to push forward with legislation that could win over immigrant communities for a long time. Indeed, GOP Senator Richard Lugar is amenable to at least pushing the DREAM Act, something that the Democrat Congressional leadership is refusing to do.


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