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angie123 07-16-2010 12:40 PM

Is Obama backing away from a sweeping immigration legislation?
 
http://www.counterpunch.org/lawrence07162010.html

Invictus 07-16-2010 01:21 PM

Re: Is Obama backing away from a sweeping immigration legislation?
 
Better to pass something rather than nothing, right?

dtrt09 07-16-2010 02:07 PM

Re: Is Obama backing away from a sweeping immigration legislation?
 
Reforming the entire immigration system, when approved, wasn't going to take place at once. They know it as well as we do that different groups of people will meet benchmarks at different times, and programs and rules will take effect gradually, so their argument against passing DA now is moot.

angie123 07-16-2010 02:24 PM

Re: Is Obama backing away from a sweeping immigration legislation?
 
So I guess it's a matter of timing (lameduck or whenever?)? I think CIR is going t0 pass, but not mass amnesty component, unless they make the standards higher. The undocumented general population is way too high.

Sonawabich 07-16-2010 02:26 PM

Re: Is Obama backing away from a sweeping immigration legislation?
 
just pass dream act + enforcement!

plz-724 07-16-2010 05:29 PM

Re: Is Obama backing away from a sweeping immigration legislation?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonawabich (Post 166508)
just pass dream act + enforcement!

That's the only way something will get done. There has to be enforcement here. The problem can only be solved though enforcement-only reform, which is economically the wrong solution, or through CIR+tough and I mean real tough enforcement, which should include militarizing the border. That's the only way that will ensure that this problem doesn't happen again and that is ultimately what the next step should be. I hate to say and admit this, but it's the truth and the only way that this problem can be solved.

Invictus 07-16-2010 05:35 PM

Re: Is Obama backing away from a sweeping immigration legislation?
 
We're out of Iraq, what's stopping us from sending military down there?

plz-724 07-16-2010 05:43 PM

Re: Is Obama backing away from a sweeping immigration legislation?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Invictus (Post 166525)
We're out of Iraq, what's stopping us from sending military down there?

The fierce and bloody war in Afghanistan.

Invictus 07-16-2010 08:03 PM

Re: Is Obama backing away from a sweeping immigration legislation?
 
What about the national guard?

OrlandoDREAM Act 07-17-2010 07:28 AM

Re: Is Obama backing away from a sweeping immigration legislation?
 
and this is what is stopping us from winning. we can't/won't talk like this at the national level.


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