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Dragunov 12-22-2010 07:53 AM

Interesting Article - Who killed the DREAM Act?
 
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...EDRK1GTQGF.DTL

minus 12-22-2010 08:53 AM

Re: Interesting Article - Who killed the DREAM Act?
 
100 % true

Nic89 12-22-2010 11:09 AM

Re: Interesting Article - Who killed the DREAM Act?
 
Well i think this article nothing but making democrates game player. YES, Dem's had two yrs to take dream act up but fu..... Gram want to get CIR done. Gop the one who called us terorist, drug dealers and so on. 95% of repulicans voted against us. We all know health care and other financial bills took up over yr and half that leaves dem's with 6 months and exclude 2 out for midterm campign so that leaves 4 months for Dem's to act on DA. They tried to pass it in Sep but still GOPer called it politics and not even single voted for it. Now we all know Reid and Durbin tired theyre best to move vote around to get enough vote but now republicans complaint abt last min passage and border not secured yet.

Come on guys we know whoes making execusis for not to vote on it??...GOP. I think we schould all stick togather for Democartes b/c theyre the one who voted for us, theyre the one who atlest trying it, theyre the one who heleped to block Arizona law, Which is suported by 95% of republicans.

Lets not blame democrates for not passing DA. They tried it but we can say they schould have tried harder then this but we schould not back away from suporting Democates. Alwaus remeber something is better then nothing.

I think this article helping Goperr and Anti to confusing us.

ElDreamerDaniel 12-22-2010 12:22 PM

Re: Interesting Article - Who killed the DREAM Act?
 
I think the article is too harsh on the Democrats. Granted, I do believe that they could of gotten more votes if Reid and Obama would of done more, but let's also not forget about the Republicans. I'm quoting the article:

First, there were the numbers. Forty-one Republicans voted against cloture, thus keeping the bill from advancing to the full Senate.

Invictus 12-22-2010 12:24 PM

Re: Interesting Article - Who killed the DREAM Act?
 
His blaming of the democrats is inaccurate.

The Dems were never as airtight and coordinated as the GOP. Plenty of Dems have conservative constituents that they are trying to appease.

Without these "Democrats in name only" would we still be a majority? I doubt it.

gwone371 12-22-2010 12:42 PM

Re: Interesting Article - Who killed the DREAM Act?
 
Well, I blame the Republican 100%

jkl 12-22-2010 12:55 PM

Re: Interesting Article - Who killed the DREAM Act?
 
When I was in HS my economics teacher was talking about credit and loans etc... and he said in this country if you don't have a SS# you're basically nobody. Well you can guess how that made me feel, even though he was not talking about immigration but economics.

Now, I see that if you can't vote you're nobody in this country.

Thecure 12-22-2010 01:06 PM

Re: Interesting Article - Who killed the DREAM Act?
 
Lulz. Da was dead on arrival. Cir and gay marrriage have better chances. The article is not 100% correct because politics is not a clear, black/white subject. Both parties had a hand in this. I actually thought for a hot minute that it had a chance... But as long as there's a filibuster and drama to get votes, there will never be justice.

minus 12-22-2010 01:23 PM

Re: Interesting Article - Who killed the DREAM Act?
 
Lets put aside our political jerseys for one moment and think about it. The truth hurts. Democrats are as guilty as Republican if not more.

theboys2010 12-22-2010 03:08 PM

Re: Interesting Article - Who killed the DREAM Act?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nic89 (Post 201783)
Well i think this article nothing but making democrates game player. YES, Dem's had two yrs to take dream act up but fu..... Gram want to get CIR done. Gop the one who called us terorist, drug dealers and so on. 95% of repulicans voted against us. We all know health care and other financial bills took up over yr and half that leaves dem's with 6 months and exclude 2 out for midterm campign so that leaves 4 months for Dem's to act on DA. They tried to pass it in Sep but still GOPer called it politics and not even single voted for it. Now we all know Reid and Durbin tired theyre best to move vote around to get enough vote but now republicans complaint abt last min passage and border not secured yet.

Come on guys we know whoes making execusis for not to vote on it??...GOP. I think we schould all stick togather for Democartes b/c theyre the one who voted for us, theyre the one who atlest trying it, theyre the one who heleped to block Arizona law, Which is suported by 95% of republicans.

Lets not blame democrates for not passing DA. They tried it but we can say they schould have tried harder then this but we schould not back away from suporting Democates. Alwaus remeber something is better then nothing.

I think this article helping Goperr and Anti to confusing us.

Democrats have had control of the house and senate for four years. Democrats had control under Bush last two years and he would of signed CIR. The economy derailed the process but the democrats are as at fault just as much.


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