Anti-14th Amendment Bills Fail in Arizona
 

Arizona State Senate legislation that would disallow automatic citizenship to those born to undocumented immigrants did not have enough support in a committee meeting yesterday. Consequently, the bill’s sponsor pulled the two bills for the time building.

One of the bills attempted to define who could be considered as a legal citizen of Arizona, while the other seeks Congressional approval for states to differentiate between children of undocumented immigrants and other children when issuing state birth certificates. Two identical bills have also been filed in Arizona’s house.

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I don't know what makes them think they can modify the 14th Amendment.

What are they going to do with all the so called anchor babies if the parents' country will not accept them? The parents are citizen of say Mexico. All Mexico has to do is say the kids are not citizens of Mexico hence not take them. Have any patriots figured that angle?

Are they going to deport the parents to Mexico, fill the detention centers with babies and outsource the diaper service to China? There will most likely be a permanent underclass, like the gypsies of Europe. Someone everyone can treat anyway they want.

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This amendment is pretty unambiguous. There is also over 140 years of SCOTUS precedents that say that yes.. people born on US soil are automatically citizens with few exceptions like they are the children of foreign diplomats.

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Hi scteach22!

Let me start by saying what AZ is doing is a circus because immigration is a federal matter.

Arizona cannot decide which people should receive American citizenship and which should not. They came up with such an absurd "law" because some people are very easy to convince who to vote for. The immigrants may live in any states they want. The states may like it or but not only the federal government makes the final decision on what to do with them ( deport them or allow them to stay).

Kindest Regards,

Me

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I wonder if you would say the same thing to states that are coming up with their own Dream Acts, states like CA, IL, etc and those people in here who supports that. (see couple of pages back in this news forum)

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The amendment is pretty clear to me and the children of the undocumented immigrants ARE included even though they are born to nationals of another country. Undocumented immigrants are "subject to the jurisdiction" of the US otherwise they would have no legal power to call us undocumented immigrants in the 1st place.

In 1898, the Supreme Court ruled that birth on American soil is "declared by the Constitution to constitute a sufficient and complete right to citizenship."

In 1982, it concluded that undocumented immigrants are indeed "within the jurisdiction" of the state where they are present. To deny a U.S. born child a birth certificate would almost certainly violate the right to the equal protection of the laws.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...-american-soil

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F**** 'em. 14th amendment goes down nationwide, We will take the streets. I don't have a kids, but I have a 2 year old nephew and even though, his dad is a resident, my sister is not. This is upsetting on another level. I hope there are other people who think the same.