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h3wlett 09-29-2011 03:37 PM

Open for Questions with President Obama
 
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elihu 09-29-2011 05:59 PM

Re: Open for Questions with President Obama
 
On one hand, his argument pisses me off for obvious reasons. On the other, he makes a valid point. The only real solution for DREAMers is for Congress to pass the DREAM Act. The best we can hope for until then is for the President to ensure that those administrative priorities he claims are being implemented actually take effect. We can't get him to give us status automatically, but we can pressure him to do so if we get into proceedings.

CB124 09-29-2011 06:21 PM

Re: Open for Questions with President Obama
 
I mean seriously guys, in his defense, what the hell do you want him to do? He isn't a Senator anymore. He has other issues to deal with on a daily basis which actually have a chance of passing. I say give him a break on this.

dexterchach 09-29-2011 06:34 PM

Re: Open for Questions with President Obama
 
if he really wanted reform, he'd do it. look at the healthcare, DADT, and funding bills. very strong GOP opposition, but they somehow 'managed' to get it done.

dado123 09-29-2011 06:35 PM

Re: Open for Questions with President Obama
 
He needs to pressure congress himself, he could send his own proposal just like he did with Health Care, issue here is that CIR and Dream always gets put on the back burner and on the front burner when elections are close, such as when Reid brought dream to the Senate floor, many say it was to save his own skin from loosing his seat, SIGH, hope the increased pressure on Obama and Congress bears fruits in the coming years !!!!!!

obsolete101891 09-29-2011 06:37 PM

Re: Open for Questions with President Obama
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CB124 (Post 235677)
I mean seriously guys, in his defense, what the hell do you want him to do? He isn't a Senator anymore. He has other issues to deal with on a daily basis which actually have a chance of passing. I say give him a break on this.

Then why promise something you can't deliver??

CB124 09-29-2011 07:24 PM

Re: Open for Questions with President Obama
 
So what should he try that he hasn't done yet, use harsh language. As much as I hate to say it, it got 55 votes last time with a Senate that had 60 democrats at one point. They are down to what, 53 democrats now? I don't even think that it would get to a simple majority of 51 without the filibuster now, and it needs 60. I know that's not what anyone wants to hear of course.

elihu 09-29-2011 07:29 PM

Re: Open for Questions with President Obama
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dexterchach (Post 235679)
if he really wanted reform, he'd do it. look at the healthcare, DADT, and funding bills. very strong GOP opposition, but they somehow 'managed' to get it done.

The guy's not God. What he--and actually, not really him, but Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi--managed to do was to convince a few Republicans to join his side in the Senate and the House. We can't expect the entire party to switch, but if someone could court a few, it might make all the difference.

tyler129 09-30-2011 03:41 PM

Re: Open for Questions with President Obama
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by elihu (Post 235684)
The guy's not God. What he--and actually, not really him, but Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi--managed to do was to convince a few Republicans to join his side in the Senate and the House. We can't expect the entire party to switch, but if someone could court a few, it might make all the difference.

You said it yourself. It doesn't take God to convince Republicans to join his side. Obama didn't do that.

elihu 09-30-2011 05:58 PM

Re: Open for Questions with President Obama
 
Obama's not at the point of being able to do that. The budget debate radicalized everything beyond all measure. Republicans stuck to their guns like immature teenagers, while Democrats pansied out like irresponsible parents.


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