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2Face 11-29-2011 02:32 PM

Joaquin Luna’s Blood on the hands of Senators John McCain, Jon Kyl, Senator Orrin Hat
 
http://tucsoncitizen.com/hispanic-po...act-2010-vote/

In the wake of the loss of one of our own, I feel it is important this was posted here as well. Please take a close look at these names especially the Democrats and the swing Republican senators who everyone thought would vote yes. Some of these names will be up for reelection next December.

Democrats

Max Baucus
Kay Hagan
Ben Nelson
Mark Pryor
Jon Tester
Joe Manchin


Republicans

Alexander (R-TN)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Bond (R-MO)
Brown (R-MA)
Brownback (R-KS)
Burr (R-NC)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Collins (R-ME)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hutchison (R-TX) NOTE: Ignored weeks of hunger endured by Dreamers and didn't even have ONE word with them
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Kirk (R-IL)
Kyl (R-AZ)
LeMieux (R-FL)
McCain (R-AZ) NOTE: Full fledged supporter of CIR in the past. Voted No because he didn't want to give President Obama another "victory"
McConnell (R-KY)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL),
Snowe (R-ME)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Wicker (R-MS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hatch (R-UT) NOTE: Did not vote because he wanted to please both Tea Party and Latinos. Co-Sponsored the bill in the past.

CB124 11-29-2011 05:30 PM

Re: Joaquin Luna’s Blood on the hands of Senators John McCain, Jon Kyl, Senator Orrin
 
So basically if I wanted to bang Jessica Alba and she said "no way in hell'. Then I threatened to kill myself if she didn't have sex with me, would she be blamed for my death?

Dres2011 11-29-2011 07:35 PM

Re: Joaquin Luna’s Blood on the hands of Senators John McCain, Jon Kyl, Senator Orrin
 
Why do you even come to this website?



are you happy in Mexico?

MaskedLuchador 11-29-2011 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dres2011 (Post 240079)
Why do you even come to this website?



are you happy in Mexico?

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

CB124 11-29-2011 07:46 PM

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im happy.

I know you guys don't like the things I say sometime, but the deal is I am an ex-illegal immigrant now. So I have different viewpoints on things. For example, I have seen the bullshit way that the Mexican government treat immigrants and migrants in this country, and I have come to decide that its not just an American thing. Plus, there is nothing I can't stand like this blame stuff. I hate it when the antis do it every time a Border Patrol guy gets killed or a rancher gets killed on the border, and hate it when the immigrant side does it like with this. May the poor guy rest in peace, but he was messed up in the head for killing himself. I think his status was a major contributing factor, but I didn't kill myself over it, and none of you have.

And likewise, I hate it when we all get demonized everytime ICE releases someone and they go out and commit a crime. People should be treated on an individual basis. I think most of the people in the US should get help and get legalized, but not all. I have the ability to make discretion.

jseo 11-29-2011 09:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CB124 (Post 240072)
So basically if I wanted to bang Jessica Alba and she said "no way in hell'. Then I threatened to kill myself if she didn't have sex with me, would she be blamed for my death?

Nobody threatened to kill themselves if they said no to dream act. However, the dream act has been used as a political tool.

I love how you relate this to something totally irrelevant. Jessica Alba saying no to you is her right. These politicians have a responsibility to fix the nations problems because they are the nations "brightest leaders". If the responsbility doesn't come from the fact that they are leaders, then it comes from the fact that it's their job to do so. Yeah, you might say, "It's their opinion and a right to say no to the dream act and immigration" but then I say, if they think that illegal immigration will ever disappear, they are fools and they don't deserve the spot for having such a retarded mentality. However, if they know that it will never disappear, then they should be doing something with immigration because it's their job.

jseo 11-29-2011 09:04 PM

Re: Joaquin Luna’s Blood on the hands of Senators John McCain, Jon Kyl, Senator Orrin
 
So yes. It is their fault.

Ali 11-29-2011 09:33 PM

Re: Joaquin Luna’s Blood on the hands of Senators John McCain, Jon Kyl, Senator Orrin
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CB124 (Post 240072)
So basically if I wanted to bang Jessica Alba and she said "no way in hell'. Then I threatened to kill myself if she didn't have sex with me, would she be blamed for my death?

kind of unfair. I mean, the kid didn't threaten anyone w/suicide if DA didn't pass, he killed himself cuz it didn't. It'd be like you killing yourself cuz Alba said no, not cuz u threatened her and carried thru w/it. If you want to make ridiculous statements, it's like slaves jumping the slave ship cuz the captain refused to take them home.

I don't like the fact that the guy's death is starting to be used for political gain, but it's a fact of life this shit's driving people mad and making them do crazy things; and the assholes opposing it need to be made aware of it. It's oppression through neglect.

carnivore 11-29-2011 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jseo (Post 240086)
So yes. It is their fault.

No, it's not, not the suicide part. It's his fault for making such a stupid decision over something fixable.

And I say this as someone who vehemently hates politicians.

CB124 11-29-2011 09:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by carnivore (Post 240090)
No, it's not, not the suicide part. It's his fault for making such a stupid decision over something fixable.

And I say this as someone who vehemently hates politicians.

Thank you. And the people above are right, the politicians do have a duty to fix this situation in one way or another. But lets be realistic: these dumbasses can't even find a way to pay off the massive multi-trillion dollar debt (which if seen from a neutral eye, should be issue number 1). And historically, when the economy is shit, Americans don't give a flying fuck about immigrants or foreign relations or really anything. They will bomb the shit out of a third world country to bring back that lovin' feelin, start feeling patriotic again, and that usually gets the economy rolling again. THEN, they get to immigration.


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