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Smooth 04-02-2012 07:33 PM

Upcoming Rubio bill: what type of visa process would we support?
 
Guys, this is not about liking Rubio.

Evidently, he plans to propose a bill that puts us on a visa process that does not bar us from citizenship. So, it would be nice if all of us could come to some consensus on the type of visa process we would support. If we do not agree to something among us and inform Rubio on it, Rubio will most likely present a watered down version.

P.S. If you are stubborn and want to see the ratification of the DA, step aside because you need to be aware that the DA will not get anywhere in this congress or the next if the status quo remains. That is reality.

So, here is your chance: can we come to a consensus on the type of visa process we would support? List away and debate.

ECW 04-02-2012 09:13 PM

Re: Upcoming Rubio bill: what type of visa process would we support?
 
A temporary non renewable visa for 4 years to complete the military/ college requirements, then a 10 years permanent renewable visa after that. I can't see it going any other way than this. The age limit will be 29, I strongly doubt it will go any higher.

2Face 04-03-2012 08:19 AM

Re: Upcoming Rubio bill: what type of visa process would we support?
 
Any Visa process that does not require us to leave. Great initiative this Smooth. You're right. We should accept this new bill if it is fairly reasonable. Going forward, the public/supreme court will realize the injustice in the fact that we are paying taxes as citizens and being a part of allocation of representatives yet CAN'T vote.

freshh. 04-03-2012 01:01 PM

Re: Upcoming Rubio bill: what type of visa process would we support?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ECW (Post 249486)
A temporary non renewable visa for 4 years to complete the military/ college requirements, then a 10 years permanent renewable visa after that. I can't see it going any other way than this. The age limit will be 29, I strongly doubt it will go any higher.

I could deal with Rubio's bill if it was this. My only issue is that I just want to know how marriage to a USC/PR would affect your status in the future.

It allows you to finish school. It allows you to drive. It allows you to live without having to worry about ICE deporting you. It allows you to support yourself. I hate that it's not DREAM, but if this is what's on the table I'll take peace and security for the moment over eventual citizenship in a country that didn't want me anyway.

TexasDreamy 04-03-2012 05:54 PM

Re: Upcoming Rubio bill: what type of visa process would we support?
 
I'll take anything that gives me the ability to drive, work, and travel outside of the country.

iDream 04-03-2012 06:26 PM

Re: Upcoming Rubio bill: what type of visa process would we support?
 
-Ability to drive
-Ability to work
-Renewable Visa application fee $500
Visa can only be renewed in two conditions.
*Finish a 4 year college with a Degree.
*Complete a 5 year contract in the military.
If the Requirements aren't met, he/she is subject to be deported.
-Ability to adjust status. ( USC marriage)
-Age limit 29
-Pay taxes.
-Can't vote
-No healthcare.

With that being said.. It's almost like the original DA with a little tweak.

Smooth 04-03-2012 06:37 PM

Re: Upcoming Rubio bill: what type of visa process would we support?
 
Thanks for the responses guys. Keep posting away on what your demands are, so I could then later synthesize the information as best as I can

cacheton011 04-03-2012 10:35 PM

Re: Upcoming Rubio bill: what type of visa process would we support?
 
I haven't read the bill cuz it's probably just B.S from Reps to gain some support from latinos.

With that said, I would be happy with a temp visa as long as I can adjust my status by marrying a USC or resident.

I already have a bachelors and if this bill somehow passes, I'll earn an MBA before I turn 29....(damn keyboard doesn't work)

Let's see just how serious reps are about the idea behind the Dream Act.....cuz if they're playing with my emotions again....me loscojo.

Smooth 04-04-2012 01:45 AM

Re: Upcoming Rubio bill: what type of visa process would we support?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cacheton011 (Post 249563)
I haven't read the bill cuz it's probably just B.S from Reps to gain some support from latinos.

With that said, I would be happy with a temp visa as long as I can adjust my status by marrying a USC or resident.

I already have a bachelors and if this bill somehow passes, I'll earn an MBA before I turn 29....(damn keyboard doesn't work)

Let's see just how serious reps are about the idea behind the Dream Act.....cuz if they're playing with my emotions again....me loscojo.

hahahahaha!

2dreamORnot2dream 04-04-2012 03:22 AM

Re: Upcoming Rubio bill: what type of visa process would we support?
 
- Permanently Renewable Visa (or at least 6yrs)

- This Visa does not prevent/block us from obtaining citizenship in other already established ways.

- Ability to travel abroad (and come back)

- Age limit 35 or retroactive clause if set lower

- Waving of the 3/10yr ban if we decide to leave so that it would not prevent us from visiting. ( by this I mean if any of us decide to leave while on the visa and it expires they do not throw the ban on us the next time we try to visit)


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