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lilbawler2001 05-11-2012 07:45 AM

Senator Rubio Discusses Immigration with Laura Ingraham
 
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Rubio: “That’s right. It’s a very narrow criteria and we’re still working on it, but it would basically be people that have come here at some point in the past, at a very young age, have lived here consecutively, have no felony record, graduated from high school, are going to go to school or serve in the military, they have to finish school. And then what they would get basically is a non-immigrant visa. What I’ve tried to do is use the existing immigration system to accommodate them. You get a non-immigrant visa, which we do now for student visas and things of that nature. Then, afterwards, if you graduate, you can renew that and convert it into some sort of a work visa. And then at some point in the future, again we don’t know what that date is, that’s one of the things we’re working through, they would not have a special pathway to citizenship
That very young age talk is troublesome lol, he keeps using that dreamer who came here at age 4 as an example. Hopefully the democrats involved in the talks stand their ground on the original under 16 criteria.

http://politicalnews.me/?id=14031&pg...RATION-LEGALLY

2Face 05-11-2012 07:49 AM

Re: Senator Rubio Discusses Immigration with Laura Ingraham
 
Man that age has gotta be 15. Anything younger than that shit is not fair! Really hope nobody is left crying! Pray for the best! Here we go!

immigration truth 05-11-2012 07:57 AM

Re: Senator Rubio Discusses Immigration with Laura Ingraham
 
I doubt he's going to compromise on age, he's been going on about qualifying age for weeks now. And think about it, the younger the age the more republicans can vote for this en masse, and he could still draw a sizeable bloc of democrats. Can any of you see Durbin having the heart to even block this if it's like ten and under? I can't see it. I hate to say it, but the younger the age, the better the chances this passes, which alone will still be hard because of the house.

And let's say it does bar most dreamers, would anyone on this forum really stand in the way of those who could it help? Would we not all still stand together and support it as one?

2Face 05-11-2012 08:30 AM

Re: Senator Rubio Discusses Immigration with Laura Ingraham
 
Somebody tell me how old was Gaby Pacheco when she was brought here, quick!!

immigration truth 05-11-2012 08:42 AM

Re: Senator Rubio Discusses Immigration with Laura Ingraham
 
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Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 254835)
Somebody tell me how old was Gaby Pacheco when she was brought here, quick!!

She came at seven years old, so she's prob going to be safe.

http://weareamericastories.org/audio/gabby-pacheco/

Knowing all the details I'm getting, I'm thinking the bill will only apply to those who came here before 12 or possibly even ten and under. I think we are nearing the realization it probably won't be a 16 and under bill. The Republicans seem to want to attract those here who have little or few memories of their homelands.

The age limit could have a second purpose though. By limiting the number of people eligible for it, you prevent a huge disruption towards the services of SCIS, two million and a half people rushing to get those non immigrant visas would cause a virtual collapse. Through provisions like this, you go from two and a half million towards possibly even 500,0000, thus making it more acceptable to those who are not in favor of a even more strained USCIS and question the logistics.

tyler129 05-11-2012 11:08 AM

Re: Senator Rubio Discusses Immigration with Laura Ingraham
 
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Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 254832)
Man that age has gotta be 15. Anything younger than that shit is not fair! Really hope nobody is left crying! Pray for the best! Here we go!

what's up with the paranoia man,

don't worry.

the age limit can be 15 days old and this bill still won't go through the house.

anitagreencard 05-11-2012 11:30 AM

Re: Senator Rubio Discusses Immigration with Laura Ingraham
 
If the age of entry requirement is too low, it will certainly lose support from key dems. This is an issue that we should all be concerned about regardless if you came here at age 1. I hope Rubio does his h.w and makes this bill suitable for most dreamers.

immigration truth 05-11-2012 11:39 AM

Re: Senator Rubio Discusses Immigration with Laura Ingraham
 
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Originally Posted by anitagreencard (Post 254847)
If the age of entry requirement is too low, it will certainly lose support from key dems. This is an issue that we should all be concerned about regardless if you came here at age 1. I hope Rubio does his h.w and makes this bill suitable for most dreamers.

But put it at the normal "16 and under" clause, and this could surely be as easily defeated by hostile republicans. The consensus then points towards a lower age limit regardless of which end of the political spectrum you view it from. And even democrats reject such a rubio compromise with a lowered age it will still look somewhat politically driven to deny the right of a normal life for people who have been here since childhood itself.

The genius of the Rubio compromise bill then is that it will divide the dreamer movement. Those whom it will apply too will support it passionately, while those whom it does not apply to it will accuse it of being unfair and unjustified.

freshh. 05-11-2012 11:53 AM

Re: Senator Rubio Discusses Immigration with Laura Ingraham
 
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Originally Posted by immigration truth (Post 254848)
But put it at the normal "16 and under" clause, and this could surely be as easily defeated by hostile republicans. The consensus then points towards a lower age limit regardless of which end of the political spectrum you view it from. And even democrats reject such a rubio compromise with a lowered age it will still look somewhat politically driven to deny the right of a normal life for people who have been here since childhood itself.

The genius of the Rubio compromise bill then is that it will divide the dreamer movement. Those whom it will apply too will support it passionately, while those whom it does not apply to it will accuse it of being unfair and unjustified.

I agree. Rubio's continuous use of the word children is not an accident. I expect the age of entry to be lower than previous versions, but I sincerely hope that's not the case. :|

Smooth 05-11-2012 11:54 AM

Re: Senator Rubio Discusses Immigration with Laura Ingraham
 
Guys, I think its going to be for those who came before 16. I am sure Rubio is getting all that feedback now from Durbin, Pacheco, and other DREAM Activists.

Don't panic. I think age can be compromised on because it doesn't take a dumbass to figure out that people age as a result of governmental inaction. The issue that is of major concern to the GOP is chain immigration.


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