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MAEZX 06-11-2012 02:24 AM
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http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/state/...ould-come-soon
The U.S. Supreme Court could rule as early as Monday on Arizona's controversial immigration law: SB 1070.*
The court has scheduled a session beginning at 7:00 a.m. Arizona time which could include its ruling on the Obama administration's challenge to the law. The justices have indicated a ruling will come down sometime this month.
The administration challenged the law in 2010, and lower courts struck down key provisions of the legislation, including a requirement for local law enforcement to check immigration status of anyone suspected of being in the country illegally.*
That provision, which can only be exercised if a person is stopped for another reason, has ignited a firestorm of controversy.
Opponents charge it will lead to racial profiling, even though the law specifically prohibits officers from using race as a factor in their decision.

Erik1421 06-11-2012 02:44 AM
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I've been noted that President Obama will take some kind of action after the ruling. My sources are widely known dreamers and activists that travel the country to support the DA. At least I hope he does.

CB124 06-11-2012 10:50 AM
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I know, he will dissolve the Supreme Court and Congress, declare himself dictator for life, then he can pass all of the executive orders everyone wants.

Your sources are dead on.

Dream becomes Reality 06-11-2012 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by CB124 (Post 258193)
I know, he will dissolve the Supreme Court and Congress, declare himself dictator for life, then he can pass all of the executive orders everyone wants.

Your sources are dead on.
Dude, seriously, what are you talking about? It is not against the law for the President to sign Executive Orders, he's done so several times since taking office. He has the authority sign an EO for an issue like the fate of the Dream Act kids/young adults and should sign it as it is an important issue that has seen no progress due to Congress' inaction.

2Face 06-11-2012 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Erik1421 (Post 258183)
I've been noted that President Obama will take some kind of action after the ruling. My sources are widely known dreamers and activists that travel the country to support the DA. At least I hope he does.
Is this a legitimate post or you're just messing around? Who are your sources? What kind of action do you expect from BO? If you're pointing towards an EO, what exactly will the EO entail?

freshh. 06-11-2012 12:29 PM
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I found another article saying we'll see the rulings by June 28th.

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Arizona immigration law

After Arizona passed immigration law SB 1070 in 2010, the Department of Justice challenged four of the law's components: requiring undocumented immigrants register with the government and carry "alien registration documents" at all times or face criminal charges, requiring police to verify immigration status when they have reasonable suspicion to think someone is not a legal resident, enabling law enforcement to arrest someone without a warrant if they are likely subject to deportation and criminalizing working without proper documents.

The issues: The state of Arizona says its location on the Mexican border means the state "bears a disproportionate share of the costs of illegal immigration," attorney Paul Clement said during Supreme Court arguments. Clement argued that Arizona's immigration burden and the federal government's inaction led Arizona to pass its own law to assist the federal government's immigration enforcement.

On the other hand, the government says the Constitution "vests exclusive authority" with the federal government on the issue of immigration, in part because it is a crucial component to national security and international relations.

The question is if federal law preempts state law. In other words, does Arizona's law infringe on federal power?

What it means: The outcome of the Supreme Court decision will address "what power the states are going to have in the future on immigration enforcement," Kevin Johnson, dean of the UC Davis Law School, told Hotsheet.

Although the Supreme Court's decision will only rule on Arizona's law, it will give states like Georgia, Alabama and South Carolina that have passed immigration laws insight into the limits of immigration enforcement.

What the court is not likely to address is the civil rights component of the case. U.S. Solicitor General Donald Verrilli told the justices that the government is "not making any allegation about racial or ethnic profiling."

Possible outcome: Only eight justices will rule the case as Justice Elena Kagan recused herself from the case because she was solicitor general at the time when the federal government decided to challenge Arizona's law. If the justices are split, the four disputed components would not go into law, however the larger constitutional questions would remain unaddressed.

On the other hand, the Court could rule broadly and say states have more room to enforce immigration laws, it could rule that the states have no role, or it could say some of the four statutes in question are able to be enforced by the states while others are not. - Source

CB124 06-11-2012 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream becomes Reality (Post 258198)
Dude, seriously, what are you talking about? It is not against the law for the President to sign Executive Orders, he's done so several times since taking office. He has the authority sign an EO for an issue like the fate of the Dream Act kids/young adults and should sign it as it is an important issue that has seen no progress due to Congress' inaction.
Of course, they sign executive orders all the time. But those executive orders don't change existing laws. Can he slow deportations? Yes, can he stop all deportations? I suppose he could, but then what would ICE and border patrol do all day, just stand down? That isn't going to happen. Can he legislate the dream act by executive order? No. Would he do it if he could? Absolutely not, he said he wouldn't about a dozen times so far, just look around on youtube or google it.

Can he overrule a supreme court decision? No, if they uphold SB1070, then it is legal for all states to do it if they want. He can't do anything about that. And what you want is outside the realm of possibility in an election year, when he has to win states like Ohio and Iowa and North Carolina.

lilbawler2001 06-11-2012 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by CB124 (Post 258201)
Of course, they sign executive orders all the time. But those executive orders don't change existing laws. Can he slow deportations? Yes, can he stop all deportations? I suppose he could, but then what would ICE and border patrol do all day, just stand down? That isn't going to happen. Can he legislate the dream act by executive order? No. Would he do it if he could? Absolutely not, he said he wouldn't about a dozen times so far, just look around on youtube or google it.

Can he overrule a supreme court decision? No, if they uphold SB1070, then it is legal for all states to do it if they want. He can't do anything about that. And what you want is outside the realm of possibility in an election year, when he has to win states like Ohio and Iowa and North Carolina.
Don't you live in Mexico now? Just enjoy your life in Mexico and stop worrying about what happens or does not happen concerning dreamers in the U.S. No one is asking the President to legislate the dream act by executive order!! All they are asking him is for him to grant humanitarian relief for dream beneficiaries( which BTW has been proven by lawyers, immigration experts etc to be entirely possible for him to do).

2Face 06-11-2012 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by lilbawler2001 (Post 258202)
Don't you live in Mexico now? Just enjoy your life in Mexico and stop worrying about what happens or does not happen concerning dreamers in the U.S. No one is asking the President to legislate the dream act by executive order!! All they are asking him is for him to grant humanitarian relief for dream beneficiaries( which BTW has been proven by lawyers, immigration experts etc to be entirely possible for him to do).
Agreed. How are we suppose to feed ourselves if we aren't able to find legit secure jobs? I'm sure most of us are not employed!

CB124 06-11-2012 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by lilbawler2001 (Post 258202)
Don't you live in Mexico now? Just enjoy your life in Mexico and stop worrying about what happens or does not happen concerning dreamers in the U.S. No one is asking the President to legislate the dream act by executive order!! All they are asking him is for him to grant humanitarian relief for dream beneficiaries( which BTW has been proven by lawyers, immigration experts etc to be entirely possible for him to do).
I don't really go on here that often anymore, because I have been busy working. I closed out the semester last week and now I have some free time. However, I do get US news. So I decide to come in and give a well thought-out response that shows that I have been following this, and all you have for me is "Shut up screw you go back to Mexico!!"

Ironic that I can talk intelligently about it and you can't, given that factor.


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