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frbc13 09-18-2012 09:56 PM

Holy crap!!! Florida people is this true????
 
Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ediber...b_1891834.html

Florida Deferred Action Recipients Deserve In-State College Tuition



Perhaps following states, such as Arizona, Alabama and Georgia, which have sought to implement their own policies touching upon immigration, until recently the state denied parents the ability to pay in-state tuition for state colleges and universities. To some, this issue may be insignificant, but when one considers that this practice affected 200,000 young inhabitants, effectively preventing them from attending college, its importance is abundantly apparent.

Because of the Florida law, these young adults had to pay anywhere from three to four times the cost of college education of other residents -- the difference between let's say $5,000 and $20,000 a year. However, two weeks ago, Federal District Court Judge Michael Moore in Ruiz v. Robinson, found that the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution forbids a state from discriminating against these similarly situated citizens.

Judge Moore correctly observed that "defendants by their own admission classify plaintiffs by virtue of their parents' undocumented status." Under this framework, the Judge found that the state created a tier of second-class citizens that were required to pay significantly more for public higher education, effectively preventing the plaintiffs, from accessing higher education.
Somewhat related to this issue is the claim for in-state tuition brought by recipients of deferred action. As many already know, President Obama recently created this program, whereby undocumented students who came to the country as children are now allowed to apply for a temporary status in the United States. The controlling language on this issue is a state document entitled the Guidelines on Florida Residency for Tuition Purposes.
Section 2.1 of the Guidelines specifically identifies that U.S. citizens, lawful permanent residents, and aliens lawfully present in the United States may be classified as residents for tuition purposes. Section 2.4 of the Guidelines is of particular importance with respect to deferred action recipients. This section, which is titled "Exceptions/Qualification," contains language that conclusively addresses the matter. Specifically, within Section 2.4 of the Guidelines is the following language:


"Non-U.S. Citizens who fall within the following categories are also eligible to establish Florida residency for tuition purposes...

h. Individuals granted Deferred Action Status."


Accordingly, the relevant guidelines concerning residency envision and actually cover deferred action recipients. The language of Section 2.2, coupled with Section 2.4's language, strongly suggest that the legislature, through one of its delegated arms, envisioned a broad grouping of individuals pursuant to federal immigration determinations to be allowed to prove their residency based on actual presence within the state for the requisite period identified by the relevant statute and guidelines. And the categories of individuals that are able to establish residence are broad, and specifically include beneficiaries of certain temporary legal immigration status, including deferred action.

Because it is a basic canon of statutory interpretation that a "court should always turn to one cardinal canon before all others... [C]ourts must presume that a legislature says in a statute what it means and means in a statute what it says there." Connecticut Nat'l Bank v. Germain, 112 S. Ct. 1146, 1149 (1992). Only the most obscure and tortured interpretation of the guidelines would lead one to conclude that despite the various provisions cited above, an applicant's parents' legal residence is a precondition to obtaining in-state tuition.

Finally, given the success of the plaintiffs in the Ruiz case, it is not unlikely that these issues and related ones will continue to be the focus of varFurthermore, in light of the guidelines' favorable language concerning deferred action recipients on the in-state tuition issue, it would be ious advocacy groups and attorneys. unwise, possibly exposing the state's higher education system to significant legal damages, to not immediately institute an in-state tuition program for deferred action recipients.

ItsKdC 09-19-2012 10:27 AM

Re: Holy crap!!! Florida people is this true????
 
And i just moved from Florida...however does that thing say Georgia is offering in-state tuition to all DACA recipients? If so that is awesome!

hooligan111988 09-19-2012 10:30 AM

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OMG!!..this is some good news!!!!..thanks for posting!!!

chlehqls 09-19-2012 10:57 AM

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Lol, these Republican states are partially supporting the new DACA initiative.

Then again, it is money to be had.

Demise 09-19-2012 11:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chlehqls (Post 305861)
Lol, these Republican states are partially supporting the new DACA initiative.

Then again, it is money to be had.

It seems more like it's just "accidental", keep in mind that up until June 15th there was no such thing as a blanked deferred action (it was granted on case-to-case basis, it took enough evidence to be granted one that you could get whatever other status, be it TPS, asylum, or approval of I-601). So the laws could have a provision for letting those granted Deferred Action get instate, which would probably never be used.

"Accidental" because possibly DHS knew that some states might offer instate to those granted deferred action.

Leap of Faith 09-19-2012 12:00 PM

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That's actually the main reason it's possible for me to continue school at a university in Florida. On my school's website it says you're eligible to pay in-state tuition if you have been granted deferred action. So right now I'm planning on finding a job, saving for a car, and starting school next May! With in-state tuition rates :)

frbc13 09-19-2012 01:15 PM

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my ass be payin' like $1000 per class plus supplies, naw mean? naw i'm sayin'?

DA2009 09-19-2012 01:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Leap of Faith (Post 305966)
That's actually the main reason it's possible for me to continue school at a University in Florida. On my school's website it says you're eligible to pay in-state tuition if you have been granted deferred action. So right now I'm planning on finding a job, saving for a car, and starting school next May! With in-state tuition rates :)

Doing the same. Already submitted my application to FIU and got accepted for the spring 13' term. Just waiting for my approval to submitt my affidavit of Florida residency and get in-state.

This is the reason it took me nearly 6 years to finish my AA. I'm drained from paying out of state tuition.

Tanzina009 09-19-2012 05:11 PM

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Leap of Faith, what University is that? I'm trying to transfer out of my broward college, but it's so expensive everywhere :(

hawkgutz 09-19-2012 05:56 PM

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I also live in Florida, but I wasn't aware that we would be able to pay in-state tuition. Could someone provide a link of a college that has this information on their website?


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