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Ianus 01-20-2013 03:37 PM

U.S. Sen. Durbin Confident About Immigration Reform
 
Here is what the Senate sponsor for Dream Act believes concerning the prospect for immigration reform.
Quote:

CHICAGO (AP) - Sen. Dick Durbin says the chances are good that the U.S. Senate will pass comprehensive immigration reform.

Durbin tells WBBM radio he is one of three Democrats working with three Republicans to draft an immigration bill. He says all six senators agree the legislation should include the DREAM Act, which would make college affordable for illegal immigrants.

Durbin says Republicans are rethinking their position on immigration following the 2012 election, when Hispanic voters turned out heavily for President Barack Obama and other Democrats.

But the Illinois senator says any immigration bill will need the support of the Hispanic caucus and Republicans, so it will require compromise.

Durbin said he couldn't speculate about the prospects of approval in the Republican-controlled House.

Pianoswithoutfaith 01-20-2013 03:54 PM

Re: U.S. Sen. Durbin Confident About Immigration Reform
 
Wow someone still remembers what original purpose of the dream acts is

EditorInChief 01-20-2013 04:20 PM

Re: U.S. Sen. Durbin Confident About Immigration Reform
 
See how difficult it was to pass the last CIR in 1986. It took more than half a year:


S.1200
Latest Title: Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986
Sponsor: Sen Simpson, Alan K. [WY] (introduced 5/23/1985) Cosponsors (None)
Related Bills: H.RES.592, H.R.3810
Latest Major Action: 11/6/1986 Became Public Law No: 99-603.
ALL ACTIONS: (Floor Actions/Congressional Record Page References)
5/23/1985:
Read twice and referred to the Committee on Judiciary.
6/5/1985:
Referred to Subcommittee on Immigration and Refugee Policy.
6/17/1985:
Subcommittee on Immigration and Refugee Policy. Hearings held.
6/18/1985:
Subcommittee on Immigration and Refugee Policy. Hearings held.
6/24/1985:
Subcommittee on Immigration and Refugee Policy. Hearings concluded. Hearings printed: S.Hrg. 99-273.
6/5/1985:
Committee on Judiciary requested executive comment from Justice Department, State Department.
7/10/1985:
Committee on Judiciary. Subcommittee on Immigration and Refugee Policy discharged from further consideration.
7/15/1985:
Committee on Judiciary received executive comment from GAO.
7/18/1985:
Committee on Judiciary. Committee consideration and Mark Up Session held.
7/23/1985:
Committee on Judiciary. Committee consideration and Mark Up Session held.
7/25/1985:
Committee on Judiciary. Committee consideration and Mark Up Session held.
7/30/1985:
Committee on Judiciary. Ordered to be reported with amendments favorably.
8/28/1985:
Committee on Judiciary. Reported to Senate by Senator Thurmond under the authority of the order of Aug 1, 85 with amendments. With written report No. 99-132. Minority views filed.
8/28/1985:
Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under General Orders. Calendar No. 282.
9/10/1985:
Motion to proceed to consideration of measure made in Senate.
9/11/1985:
Measure laid before Senate by unanimous consent.
9/12/1985:
Considered by Senate.
9/13/1985:
Considered by Senate.
9/16/1985:
Considered by Senate.
9/17/1985:
Considered by Senate.
9/18/1985:
Considered by Senate.
9/19/1985:
Considered by Senate.
9/19/1985:
Motion to commit the bill to the Committee on the Budget, with instructions to report the bill back forthwith containing the amendments heretofore agreed to.
9/19/1985:
Motion to commit agreed to by Voice Vote.
9/19/1985:
Referred to the Committee on Budget pursuant to the motion to commit.
9/19/1985:
Committee on Budget. Reported to Senate by Senator Domenici without amendment. Without written report.
9/19/1985:
Passed Senate with amendments by Yea-Nay Vote. 69-30. Record Vote No: 191.
10/9/1986:
Passed House (Amended) by Voice Vote.
10/9/1986:
House Incorporated H.R.3810 in This Measure as an Amendment.
10/10/1986:
House Insisted on its Amendments by Unanimous Consent.
10/10/1986:
House Conferees Instructed.
10/10/1986:
House Requested a Conference and Speaker Appointed Conferees: Rodino, Kastenmeier, Seiberling, Mazzoli, Synar, Frank, Schumer, Smith (FL), Berman, Boucher, Bryant, Fish, Moorhead, Lungren, McCollum, Shaw, DeWine, Panetta, Huckaby, Morrison (WA).
10/10/1986:
House Requested a Conference and Speaker Appointed Conferees: Hawkins, Ford (MI), Jeffords, Dingell, Waxman, Dannemeyer, Ford (TN), Pease, Daub, Beilenson, Taylor, Moakley.
10/10/1986:
Conference held.
10/10/1986:
Message on House action received in Senate and held at desk: House amendments to Senate bill and House requests a conference.
10/10/1986:
Senate disagreed to the House amendments by Voice Vote.
10/10/1986:
Senate agreed to request for conference. Appointed conferees. Thurmond; Simpson; Denton; Mathias; Kennedy; Simon; Metzenbaum.
10/11/1986:
Conference held.
10/14/1986:
Committee on Rules Granted a Rule Waiving All Points of Order Against the Conference Report and Waiving All Points of Order Against Its Consideration.
10/14/1986:
Rules Committee Resolution H.Res.592 Reported to House.
10/14/1986:
Conferees agreed to file conference report.
10/14/1986:
Conference Report 99-1000 Filed in House.
10/15/1986:
House Agreed to Conference Report by Yea-Nay Vote: 238 - 173 (Record Vote No: 469).
10/15/1986:
Conference papers, Senate report and managers' statement and message on House action held at the desk.
10/15/1986:
Measure laid before Senate by unanimous consent.
10/15/1986:
Cloture motion on the conference report presented in Senate.
10/16/1986:
Conference report considered in Senate.
10/16/1986:
Motion to waive the Budget Act with respect to the consideration of the Act agreed to by Yea-Nay Vote. 75-21. Record Vote No: 348.
10/17/1986:
Cloture on the conference report invoked in Senate by Yea-Nay Vote. 69-21. Record Vote No: 355.
10/17/1986:
Conference report considered in Senate.
10/17/1986:
Senate agreed to conference report by Yea-Nay Vote. 63-24. Record Vote No: 357.
10/17/1986:
Cleared for White House.
10/29/1986:
Measure Signed in Senate.
10/30/1986:
Presented to President.
11/6/1986:
Signed by President.
11/6/1986:
Became Public Law No: 99-603.

K-Man 01-20-2013 04:31 PM

Re: U.S. Sen. Durbin Confident About Immigration Reform
 
..and your point is? Legislative process from 3 decades ago in a different political climate (different world to be more accurate) is not comparing apples to apples.

Pianoswithoutfaith 01-20-2013 04:37 PM

Re: U.S. Sen. Durbin Confident About Immigration Reform
 
No its pretty much still the same thing. Politics back then are not any different from now.


I was like whoa this clip is over 30 years old

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi1nxu-Sy-w

Politics talk a bout the same thing over and over and over again

K-Man 01-20-2013 04:41 PM

Re: U.S. Sen. Durbin Confident About Immigration Reform
 
I would think the Republicans are a bit more inclined to cooperate after witnessing a slow and painful drought in their vote demo this year, in '86 I don't think they lost that much minority/women support :p (because they didn't 'matter' back then)

Pianoswithoutfaith 01-20-2013 04:44 PM

Re: U.S. Sen. Durbin Confident About Immigration Reform
 
It will take more than half a year man, its pretty hard to pass this kind of stuff. Really hard it will be a tough journey for us.

K-Man 01-20-2013 04:53 PM

Re: U.S. Sen. Durbin Confident About Immigration Reform
 
I'm not expecting a quick passage in any sort of time frame, but just pointing out that the incentive and consequences of CIR this time around vs. 1986 is bit more serious with the growing minority group.

It's a do or die situation, I wonder if they realize the consequences of few millions eventually adjusting to citizenship and being allowed to vote, after all the hatred they've shown. Obviously just ignoring the problem hasn't worked, they had it coming.

PhelonOne87 01-20-2013 06:32 PM

Re: U.S. Sen. Durbin Confident About Immigration Reform
 
We need a DREAM ACT 2013 PUSH!!! AND A PLAN TO START IT

2Face 01-20-2013 07:06 PM

Re: U.S. Sen. Durbin Confident About Immigration Reform
 
CIR will pass between the months of May-July I think. Not too long to go if you ask me keeping in mind how long we've waited already. DACA is cool but CIR will be the final solution not only for us but for all of our fams. Lets see what Obama says in his inauguration address and state of the Union.


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