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Ianus 02-04-2013 05:21 PM

Goodlatte not sold on Senate immigration plan
 
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...aring/1890171/
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House Judiciary Chairman Bob Goodlatte, R-Va., has seen immigration proposals by President Obama and a bipartisan group of senators that include a pathway to citizenship for the country's 11 million illegal immigrants, and he has a simple response: Not so fast.

Goodlatte, who has labeled past efforts as "amnesty" and has earned a career A+ grade from NumbersUSA, a group that wants lower levels of immigration, said there are a lot of possibilities between deporting all the country's illegal immigrants and granting them all citizenship.

"When (Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid) says there has to be a path to citizenship, I wonder whether he's serious about doing immigration reform," said Goodlatte, whose committee will handle any immigration proposals. "You have to come at this with a willingness to look at all the options and find the common ground."

Goodlatte will use the first hearing in his committee Tuesday to provide Immigration 101 to members who have not been involved in the wide array of issues facing Congress on the topic. He said they will hold several such hearings in his full committee, and his immigration subcommittee headed by Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., as well as individual briefings for representatives and their staff.

"Most members of Congress do not have a lot of experience with immigration law," Goodlatte said. "We think there are a lot of members who want and need to learn a lot more about the issue."


The hearing comes a week after a group of senators -- four Republicans and four Democrats -- outlined their framework for a comprehensive immigration bill and Obama gave a speech in Las Vegas outlining his plans.

The Senate proposal creates a path to citizenship for the 11 million illegal immigrants living in the U.S., changes the legal immigration system to allow more low- and high-skilled foreigners access to visas, creates a system so employers can easily check the immigration status of prospective employees and further secures the nation's borders.

If passed, all illegal immigrants who pass a criminal background check would be allowed to live and work in the country in a provisionary status. After Congress is assured that the border has been controlled, then those immigrants could file for a green card after they've paid fines and back taxes and learned English and civics, among other requirements.

Goodlatte said the idea of tying any possibility of citizenship to a secure border is a "worthwhile idea" that needs to be examined closely.

"When we did this in 1986, it clearly was totally ineffective," Goodlattte said of a 1986 immigration law that legalized 3 million illegal immigrants but did not secure the border. "What the Senate is working on, we'll be interested in looking at."

In the current Senate plan, most illegal immigrants would have to wait for all pending green card applications to be processed before they could get their green cards. But those who were brought to the country as children, who earn advanced degrees from American universities and work in the agricultural field will have a different, faster process.

Goodlatte said the push for legalization is "going to be a difficult thing" for him to accept. "It all depends on the conditions that are imposed," he said.

And while he promised a full airing of the Senate plan, Goodlatte said he was ready and willing to look at smaller bills that tackle individual pieces of the immigration system if he doesn't feel a wide consensus for a comprehensive plan forming.

"If we can't find it, then we're going to do as much as we can in the House," he said.


lostpath 02-04-2013 05:24 PM

Re: Goodlatte not sold on Senate immigration plan
 
When I read the headline I thought they were talking about Starbucks or something similar.

EditorInChief 02-04-2013 05:26 PM

Re: Goodlatte not sold on Senate immigration plan
 
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Originally Posted by Ianus (Post 421265)

There need to be two things: 1) Border security, & 2) Legalization for USC

In 1986, the number legalized was 3 million.
In 2012, the number legalized jumps to as high as 11 million.

So, 3 million versus 11 million.




What would the next number be? 20 million, 100 million, or a billion?


People who are already here will all be DOOMED with such a large population. So, border must be secured to protect everybody who is already here.

Smooth 02-04-2013 06:48 PM

Re: Goodlatte not sold on Senate immigration plan
 
Goodlatte is a disgrace to pragmatism. Senate Democrats ARE compromising on the path to legalization question by advancing a pragmatic, bipartisan idea that clearly reflects liberal and conservative viewpoints: grant provisionary status until the border is relatively secure. Goodlatte is clearly a partisan purist.

DA User 02-04-2013 07:19 PM

Re: Goodlatte not sold on Senate immigration plan
 
I have also heard 12 million, 20 million and 30 million.

cacheton011 02-04-2013 07:28 PM

Re: Goodlatte not sold on Senate immigration plan
 
More and more bad news will slowly trickle in.....be ready.

:(

ceramicpapi 02-04-2013 08:28 PM

Re: Goodlatte not sold on Senate immigration plan
 
Am I the only one who think that the supposed 11 million undocumented immigrants in this country is a bunch of BS? They said that the number of people who would benefit from deferred action was over one million and we're not even halfway there. Just watch. at the end of the day is going to be like 5 million or probably less.

DA User 02-04-2013 09:12 PM

Re: Goodlatte not sold on Senate immigration plan
 
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Originally Posted by ceramicpapi (Post 421366)
Am I the only one who think that the supposed 11 million undocumented immigrants in this country is a bunch of BS? They said that the number of people who would benefit from deferred action was over one million and we're not even halfway there. Just watch. at the end of the day is going to be like 5 million or probably less.

That is because there were applicants that were denied plus they left out 31+ Dreamers. How do you know all of those people actually applied?

Sonawabich 02-04-2013 11:56 PM

Re: Goodlatte not sold on Senate immigration plan
 
Goodlatte: how about a bad latte?

Pianoswithoutfaith 02-05-2013 12:25 AM

Re: Goodlatte not sold on Senate immigration plan
 
Hmmm 40% Of illegal are overstayers so if they fixed the broken immigration system, this would be eliminated and the number of people crossing the border is decreasing by ta lot. It could well be that overstaying is the only way to enter and stay here illegally.


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