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Ianus 02-09-2013 03:15 PM

Judge Blocks Argument for DL for "Deferred" Immigrants
 
http://azdailysun.com/news/local/sta...a4a37b2d.html]
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PHOENIX -- A federal judge on Friday blocked illegal immigrants in the new "deferred action" program from arguing in court they are being "irreparably harmed" by the refusal of Gov. Jan Brewer to let them have Arizona drivers' licenses.

Judge David Campbell agreed to a request by the attorneys for the five individual plaintiffs in the lawsuit that they should not be questioned about how they obtained work or are driving. He said that issue is irrelevant to their legal claims that they are being denied equal rights or that the directive issued by the governor denying them licenses is preempted by federal law.

But Campbell said challengers cannot have it both ways.

"Plaintiffs will not be permitted to argue that they were forced to drive or work illegally and that they are irreparably harmed by the inability to work or drive illegally," the judge wrote. He said if information on how they were able to drive and get to work is off-limits to the governor, then the plaintiffs themselves cannot use it for their own legal purposes.

The ruling is significant because one key in the lawsuit filed late last year by the challengers is that the governor's order "severely frustrates their ability to obtain employment and achieve economic self-sufficiency." That could undermine their bid to convince Campbell at a hearing scheduled for next month to immediately block the governor's directive and to order the state to start issuing licenses to those affected.

Campbell separately rejected a bid by the challengers to question the governor herself. He said that is unnecessary for the purposes of next month's hearing.

But he also rebuffed a bid by the governor to block either side from sharing information about the case with the press and public.

Campbell said it's one thing for parties to a lawsuit to ask that certain documents, like pretrial depositions of those involved and other witnesses, be kept as confidential. But he found this request unacceptable.

"The court will not enter a gag order at this time and will not require that non-confidential information be held confidential," the judge wrote.

The fight stems from a decision last year by the Obama administration not to deport illegal immigrants who were brought here as children, were not yet 30 and could meet certain other conditions. The "Deferred Action Childhood Arrival" policy also entitled those who qualify to get permits to work legally in this country.

These deferrals are for two years but renewable. About 1.4 million nationwide are eligible, including close to 80,000 in Arizona.

Brewer, however, told the state Motor Vehicle Division not to issue any of these individuals a driver's license, citing a 1996 state law requiring applications show their presence is "authorized under federal law." She said the DACA program does not authorize anyone to be in the United States but simply says they will not be deported, at least for the time being.

The Arizona Dream Act Coalition and five individuals, represented by various rights groups, want Campbell to rule that Brewer is wrong, arguing the president's action does authorize the presence of those in the DACA program.

Gubernatorial press aide Matthew Benson, asked about the judge's ruling on release of information, denied that Brewer wants to keep information about the legal proceedings from the public. But he indicated the governor has been unhappy with news reports.

"The American Civil Liberties Union has consistently argued this issue in the media and presented information incorrectly," he told Capitol Media Services. "We simply want to make sure this issue is litigated in the court, where it's appropriate."

But Benson insisted the state's request was never to keep attorneys for the other side from talking with the press.

"The state has simply wanted to make certain that sensitive depositions didn't become fodder for the ACLU's PR effort," he said.

The latest legal maneuvers come nearly a month after U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services issued a memo to address frequently asked questions about the DACA program. Of note, the memo says anyone who is approved "is authorized by the Department of Homeland Security to be present in the United States."

Benson said the governor's legal team continues to study the memo but that the directive remains in place.

Officials in other states, however, apparently have gotten the answers they need.

Two weeks ago, after the USCIS memo was issued, Michigan Secretary of State Ruth Johnson said her agency will issue drivers' licenses to those approved for the DACA program. That reverses Johnson's earlier conclusion that the individuals involved were not in the country legally.

That state had been named in a lawsuit virtually identical to the one pending here.

But the DACA participants in Michigan will get specially designated licenses which will carry expiration dates that match the date that each person's deferral expires.

Iowa officials also have reversed their refusal to issue licenses in the wake of last month's memo.

drdaca 02-09-2013 04:07 PM

Re: 'Deferred' immigrants lose license ruling
 
The title is very misleading. The judge blocked one argument against the governor's decision, not the entire suit. The hearing is still scheduled for next month.

Ianus 02-09-2013 04:26 PM

Re: 'Deferred' immigrants lose license ruling
 
You're right tried to edit the headline but can't seem to change it to reflect such.

dreamy14 02-10-2013 03:21 AM

Re: 'Deferred' immigrants lose license ruling[Lawsuit still on in AZ]i
 
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Originally Posted by Ianus (Post 425180)
The ruling is significant because one key in the lawsuit filed late last year by the challengers is that the governor's order "severely frustrates their ability to obtain employment and achieve economic self-sufficiency."

This is actually a valid argument since Brewer had said so herself that the main purpose of the ban was to avoid DACA students from getting jobs over USCs and PRs. Some employers do ask for a valid state/government form ID for hiring process, and if not that, it is needed for background checks. I've filled up a couple of applications that asks for DL numbers, and I had to leave it blank. Without a state ID...which is basically what Brewer denied....jobs are very limited to us.

sidynasty 02-10-2013 01:05 PM

Re: 'Deferred' immigrants lose license ruling
 
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Originally Posted by Ianus (Post 425233)
You're right tried to edit the headline but can't seem to change it to reflect such.

I guess you're going to have to accept that MOD position so you can edit your headlines, Ianus. :lol:

Ianus 02-10-2013 01:41 PM

Re: 'Deferred' immigrants lose license ruling
 
^Hah,nice try!

angelchen1111 02-10-2013 08:52 PM

Re: 'Deferred' immigrants lose license ruling
 
The link is dead

Chyno 02-10-2013 09:38 PM

Re: 'Deferred' immigrants lose license ruling[Lawsuit still on in AZ]i
 
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Originally Posted by dreamy14 (Post 425577)
This is actually a valid argument since Brewer had said so herself that the main purpose of the ban was to avoid DACA students from getting jobs over USCs and PRs. Some employers do ask for a valid state/government form ID for hiring process, and if not that, it is needed for background checks. I've filled up a couple of applications that asks for DL numbers, and I had to leave it blank. Without a state ID...which is basically what Brewer denied....jobs are very limited to us.

I wish I could tell Jan Brewer that many companies have offered me internships over the people she tries to defend because I am more qualified than other people.

Swim19 02-10-2013 11:45 PM

Re: 'Deferred' immigrants lose license ruling
 
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Originally Posted by sidynasty (Post 425689)
I guess you're going to have to accept that MOD position so you can edit your headlines, Ianus. :lol:

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Originally Posted by Ianus (Post 425694)
^Hah,nice try!

Ha!

Anyway I changed the title to better reflect the article.

msaccountant 02-11-2013 12:44 AM

Re: 'Deferred' immigrants lose license ruling[Lawsuit still on in AZ]i
 
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Originally Posted by Chyno (Post 426084)
I wish I could tell Jan Brewer that many companies have offered me internships over the people she tries to defend because I am more qualified than other people.

That woman won't care. Isn't it enough that USCIS issued this:

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New - Q6: If my case is deferred, am I in lawful status for the period of deferral?
A6: No. Although action on your case has been deferred and you do not accrue unlawful presence (for admissibility purposes) during the period of deferred action, deferred action does not confer any lawful status.

The fact that you are not accruing unlawful presence does not change whether you are in lawful status while you remain in the United States. However, although deferred action does not confer a lawful immigration status, your period of stay is authorized by the Department of Homeland Security while your deferred action is in effect and, for admissibility purposes, you are considered to be lawfully present in the United States during that time.

Apart from the immigration laws, “lawful presence”, “lawful status” and similar terms are used in various other federal and state laws. For information on how those laws affect individuals who receive a favorable exercise of prosecutorial discretion under DACA, please contact the appropriate federal, state or local authorities
^Although that last paragraph doesn't really help our case. :/

Ugh sad. Brewer really is out to get undocumented individuals...period.


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