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Haley Barbour: Immigration Timeline In Congress 'Overly Optimistic'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2915917.html
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This issue is too complex/important/emotional to be completed in just a couple of months. The Democrats are just being irresponsible. The logical approach should be: 1) Legalization plus border security, 2) AgJobs, 3) Family-based and employment-based, 4) Other issues. |
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It's not only democrats that want a comprehensive bill which is obvious since half of the senators working on the bill are republicans. The only people calling for a piecemeal approach are some house republicans who happen to be the same ones that are against a pathway to citizenship. |
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Some of the issues that are being added to CIR are themselves very controversial: LGBT, STEM visas, Ag temp workers, H1B visas, etc. When any of those is added to the CIR, it effectively reduces its chance of passage. The right leverage for Legalization should be border security and E-verify. As long as border security and E-verify are in the bill, that is enough to trade for legalization. Adding irrelevant stuff to CIR only complicates the entire issue and makes CIR more difficult to pass. |
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I'm also not sure where you're getting that LGBT is being added and how STEM visas are controversial. There's also a broad consensus on the need for AG workers its just the # of the them is the issue. And everyone knows the importance of h1-b visas. |
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god man..these republicans want to keep stalling until its already too late. why wait later when they can do everything all at once? lets say they do stall the bill around 2014, watch them find more excuses not to pass it because of midterm election. in other words, i get the sense that these republican just want to do it during lame duck session of next year so it doesn't cost them their seat. sigh.
don't get me wrong, i don't want them to rush the bill that will produce something stupid. i want them to work it out carefully. but stalling it next year is going to push CIR even further is TOO late. its not a good sign for our parents who are aging |
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Border security and E-verify are sufficient leverage for a path to citizenship. I am afraid those other issues can only make things worse: LGBT is opposed by many religious leaders STEM and H1B will only create more competition for high-paying jobs, so they are not liked by unions Ag Jobs programs may lead to more undocumented workers, so they are not liked by unions, either These other issues can only make the passage of CIR more difficult. |
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Articles like this worry me.
I go a day seeing hopeful articles like Pelosi predicts passage before Summer, Boehner proud of the House almost at completion of their bill, Senate bill possibly revealed in April... ...and then here comes the article out of nowhere, "Whoa whoa slow down, this shit will probably not pass until Election Year 2014!!!" It's even more ridiculous considering election years will bring even more stall tactics. But we must endure and keep hope alive nonetheless!!! Although, what I am curious about is if this continues on month after month with no progress, how will the impatience of Obama and other politicians affect the flow of the debate? Will Obama just get fed up and release his bill for a vote? Will CIR be pushed for the vote anyway to get an early passage?...etc... |
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Yeah anything that's in anyway resembling a blog I will discard. Plus yeah it needs to be a whole package, or else once border security is passed, GOP will only vote down anything else. They only want border security, they hide behind this "so-called issue" but in reality its not an issue. Illegal immigration is at an all time low.
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