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Ianus 04-08-2013 06:29 PM
Immigration Offices To Begin Collecting Biometric Data On Location
 
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/pol...iometric-data/
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Beginning in May, going to federal immigration offices will feel more like going through an airport security system.

The U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), the arm of Homeland Security that handles such things as naturalization and permanent residency, or “green cards,” announced Monday that next month it would implement the Customer Identity Verification, or CIV, at its field offices.

The new system will require people to submit biometric data such as fingerprints and photographs, as well as government-issued documentation, when going to immigration offices to conduct business.

A press release from the agency said: “CIV will help to both defend against threats to national security and protect customers from identity fraud by enhancing the agency’s ability to verify identity.”

USCIS already requires biometric data, but people must provide it by going to locations called Application Support Centers.

The new system, according to the release, will call for “an individual appearing at a USCIS field office for an interview or to be issued evidence of an immigration benefit will have his or her identity biometrically re-verified.”

People who go to a federal immigration office who are, for example, simply accompanying someone seeking services will not have to submit biometric data, the agency said.

The biometric data that field offices collect will be put into databases that, among other things, track people who come on temporary visas. Roughly half of all people living in the United States illegally are visa overstays.

After the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, many security experts and advocates of strict immigration policies said the nation’s system of tracking people who visit the United States was flawed. Most of the hijackers entered the United States legally, on visas, but several did not stick to the intentions – such as getting an academic education – they had stated in applying for permission to enter the country.

Pianoswithoutfaith 04-08-2013 06:35 PM
Re: Immigration Offices To Begin Collecting Biometric Data On Location
 
Hmm how odd......I wonder if they are doing this for the sake of catching people already with a fixed status trying to adjust it to something else who might have committed a crime or something

Ianus 04-08-2013 06:42 PM
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Kudos to Drto9,I believe they mentioned something like this would be happening.

I guess it only comes down to how will it be implemented and do overstays have to be extra careful when applying through immediate relative petitions.Technically,until one has had a petition adjudicated one is still within the US in an undocumented state.

Pianoswithoutfaith 04-08-2013 06:43 PM
Re: Immigration Offices To Begin Collecting Biometric Data On Location
 
and still can be deported so I wonder whats going to happened next

IamAman 04-08-2013 09:00 PM
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This is scary. This is very scary. If you're out of status for any reason and are trying to readjust, this is like walking into the lion's den with a plastic spork to defend yourself. In the old way, at least you could get some of the work done away from them and by the time you had to go, your problems were 90% fixed.

gokeekun 04-08-2013 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by IamAman (Post 456090)
This is scary. This is very scary. If you're out of status for any reason and are trying to readjust, this is like walking into the lion's den with a plastic spork to defend yourself. In the old way, at least you could get some of the work done away from them and by the time you had to go, your problems were 90% fixed.
care to explain more what u mean?

Ianus 04-08-2013 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by IamAman (Post 456090)
This is scary. This is very scary. If you're out of status for any reason and are trying to readjust, this is like walking into the lion's den with a plastic spork to defend yourself. In the old way, at least you could get some of the work done away from them and by the time you had to go, your problems were 90% fixed.
I know what you mean,but I suspect they wouldn't initiate proceedings on someone with a pending adjustment petition considering an immigration judge would just adjudicate the petition anyway and would be a waist of taxpayer's money if the individual can have their case adjudicated.

This implementation raises some serious issues concerning those who have DACA whether to renew eventually in the future or who are waiting for their approvals currently when this is implemented,especially those that have currently applied for DACA on there own and who might have some sort of minute criminal record or removal/deportation order.I have to say I have no idea what the outcome might be currently.

This leads me to believe something will have to be done by the Congress for eligible Dreamers to get something done considering the circumstance and effect of this implementation.

IamAman 04-08-2013 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by gokeekun (Post 456093)
care to explain more what u mean?
Ok, suppose you are out of status but a family member petitions you and your priority date arrives. The first thing you'll need to do is get your biometrics and fill out the forms. Right now, the two offices are separate so you can go get finger printed, etc. without having to worry about getting detained.

With the new rule however, you'll have to go to CIS to get finger printed while you are still out of status and if they want to, they can check you and arrest you on the spot before you even get the process started. Is it likely? maybe not, but your chances have increased.

And that's just for a simple overstay. Suppose you have no status or had a removal/deportation order and are trying to readjust your status...maybe you were 245i or otherwise have the ability to readjust. Again, you go in to get finger printed and they do a background check and see that you have a deportation order and boom, detained.

The buffer is gone.

dtrt09 04-08-2013 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Ianus (Post 456000)
Kudos to Drto9,I believe they mentioned something like this would be happening.

I guess it only comes down to how will it be implemented and do overstays have to be extra careful when applying through immediate relative petitions.Technically,until one has had a petition adjudicated one is still within the US in an undocumented state.
I actually got chills when I read this, not out of fear, though I am, of course, fearful of being deported, but because I found out this would be happening from the same person who emailed me the guidelines that would preclude the Morton Prosecutorial Discretion memo. And this was two years ago in 2011. The same way I found out about the 5 deportation cases in the 9th circuit that would allow for judicial review of prosecutorial discretion weeks prior to their publication.

The document is not confidential, but I believe very, very few people in the mainstream - relatively speaking - know about it. I have wanted to post it for a long time, but I was afraid that it would be used by those who oppose CIR to further block legislation. At the same time, it angered me to know the availability AND the viability of these options in the current judicial and executive branches of government existed, and yet the Obama administration and the Dems played dumb and refused to acknowledge them. I might just post it soon since it seems it is now or never for our opportunity to legalize.

dtrt09 04-08-2013 11:48 PM
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This is the beginning of the National Identity File.


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