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Ianus 06-27-2013 01:41 PM

Boehner: Immigration bill will require majority of both parties in the House
 
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/30...n-both-parties
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Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) said Thursday the House will not pass any immigration reform legislation — including a bill reported out of conference — that does not have the support of a majority of Republican and Democratic members.

The embattled Speaker's declaration further narrows the path for immigration in the House, even as the Senate was poised to pass its comprehensive bill on Thursday.

“For any legislation, including a conference report, to pass the House, it’s going to have to be a bill that has the support of a majority of our members,” Boehner said at his weekly Capitol press conference.


Many House Republicans are strongly opposed to a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants that Democrats consider essential.

Boehner reiterated that the House would not simply take up and vote on the Senate bill.

The Speaker later emphasized that immigration reform would need a majority of both Democrats and Republicans.

A series of individual bills moving through the Judiciary Committee have not gained Democratic support, and Boehner offered encouragement to a bipartisan group of negotiators that appear to have stalled again on legislation that has been in the works for years.

“I think the bipartisan group in the House, the Gang of Seven now, they’ve done very good work,” Boehner said. “Now they’re hung up on a couple of issues, and I think they’ve acknowledged that.

“But I would encourage them to continue their work,” he continued, “because as we look for a path forward, we’re going to need the ideas from both parties.”

The Speaker has spoken positively of the bipartisan group for months, and his comments Thursday suggest that despite its struggles, he is holding out hope it can produce legislation that would obviate the need for a partisan immigration push.

The Judiciary Committee is expected to pass its fourth immigration bill on Thursday, but leading Democratic immigration reform advocates are holding a press conference to denounce the proposals the panel has advanced.

With some staunch conservatives opposed to any immigration legislation passing the House, it remains unclear whether Republican leaders can push through proposals without significant Democratic help.


The House Republican Conference will hold a special meeting on July 10 to discuss the way forward on immigration, and while Boehner has indicated he wants the House to act before the August recess, he did not give a timetable on Thursday.

He has steadfastly refused to discuss his specific policy preferences for legislation, other than to say it must contain strong border security provisions. Boehner has declined repeated questions about his stance on a path to citizenship.

“We’re talking about a very, very contentious issue and a difficult one,” he explained Thursday. “I’ve made it clear, I think we need a majority in both parties to support the passage of immigration reform, and to do that, I’ve got to facilitate a process and a discussion, a bipartisan discussion. And that’s what I have done literally since the day after the election. I’m going to continue to do that.

“You know, me taking a position one way or another somewhere is just going to slow the process down and make it more difficult,” he continued. “I’ve got a difficult enough job as it is. I don’t need to make it harder.”
If he is sticking to this then immigration reform will not pass at all and the House Republicans should lose their majority next year.

pavpatel 06-27-2013 01:49 PM

Re: Boehner: Immigration bill will require majority of both parties in the House
 
It is so shocking to me that he has the power to not bring a bill to the floor. That's so unfair. How is that allowed? What the fuck is the point of voting on it in the senate and sending it to the house if they're not even going to fucking consider it. That's fucking dictatorship. How can Obama not override this shit. This is a fucking stupid loophole. We don't need the fucking republicans approval to pass it. We need the approval of the majority of the house, 218, which we probably could have if this republican fuck would be fair and let them vote on it. This is such fucking bullshit.

Tobeornot 06-27-2013 01:53 PM

Re: Boehner: Immigration bill will require majority of both parties in the House
 
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Originally Posted by Ianus (Post 492928)
If he is sticking to this then immigration reform will not pass at all and the House Republicans should lose their majority next year.



I am not sure about that. The republicans did a pretty good job gerrymandering congressional districts

bigdreamer2010 06-27-2013 01:53 PM

Re: Boehner: Immigration bill will require majority of both parties in the House
 
Sounds more like posturing to me. I believe there are too many forces, interests, power, money, politics etc etc to leave CIR in the hands of Bohener alone.

Sgt.Peppers 06-27-2013 01:55 PM

Re: Boehner: Immigration bill will require majority of both parties in the House
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdreamer2010 (Post 492936)
Sounds more like posturing to me. I believe there are too many forces, interests, power, money, politics etc etc to leave CIR in the hands of Bohener alone.

I got the same feeling.

Also keep in mind before he would say "Support of the Majority of Republicans"

now he says "support of a majority of Republican and Democratic members".

Tobeornot 06-27-2013 01:57 PM

Re: Boehner: Immigration bill will require majority of both parties in the House
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdreamer2010 (Post 492936)
Sounds more like posturing to me. I believe there are too many forces, interests, power, money, politics etc etc to leave CIR in the hands of Bohener alone.

Good point!

pavpatel 06-27-2013 02:00 PM

Re: Boehner: Immigration bill will require majority of both parties in the House
 
I think he's a fucking dick and he will prolly screw us over and if he does, oh man, I'll have a spot for him in my own personal hell.

pavpatel 06-27-2013 02:01 PM

Re: Boehner: Immigration bill will require majority of both parties in the House
 
Let's just say boehner doesn't allow the senate bill to come to the floor and then the house tries to do their bill but never finish it. What happens then? When does the bill HAVE to go to conference? And can boehner stop that?

RS22 06-27-2013 02:11 PM

Re: Boehner: Immigration bill will require majority of both parties in the House
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pavpatel (Post 492945)
Let's just say boehner doesn't allow the senate bill to come to the floor and then the house tries to do their bill but never finish it. What happens then? When does the bill HAVE to go to conference? And can boehner stop that?

You can only go to conference if both chambers pass a bill. I'm not an expert on this, but from what I've read, you could go to conference with a series of House bills addressing various immigration issues other than the path to citizenship.

But if they pass nothing at all, there is no conference.

Ianus 06-27-2013 02:11 PM

Re: Boehner: Immigration bill will require majority of both parties in the House
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdreamer2010 (Post 492936)
Sounds more like posturing to me. I believe there are too many forces, interests, power, money, politics etc etc to leave CIR in the hands of Bohener alone.

This is true,but the difference is Boehner is saying this variation of the 'Hastert-rule' will also apply to any conference report as well,not just in bringing the Gang of 7 bill to the House floor.If the House does do their own bill and has to go into conference with the Senate's S.744 I don't think there would be sufficient numbers for a House Republican majority to support the conference report.

This effectively kills reform imo if he holds steadfast to this new variation of the rule.


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