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dtrt09 10-25-2013 04:55 PM

Luis Gutierrez: Some Dems Say Not To Work With GOP On Immigration
 
I knew this bullshit is happening behind closed doors. I work with people like this, backstabbing and using workers for political games. Wow. I want to know the names, though I suspect it is the Democratic leadership. Truth is both sides are playing with us.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...n_4164618.html

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WASHINGTON -- Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.) said this week that some Democrats are trying to undermine his and others' work with Republicans on immigration, just so they can keep the issue for a political edge.

"When someone does reach across the aisle to say, 'Hey, let's work on this issue together,' what do we get? 'Hey, why are you helping them?'" he said on the House floor Wednesday, explaining what he hears from other Democrats. "I've heard it. When I stood with [Reps.] David Valadao [R-Calif.] or Paul Ryan [R-Wis.] to say immigration reform is an objective we can reach in a bipartisan manner, I heard from the Democrats, 'Stop working with them, we're trying to defeat them.'"

Gutierrez is one of the most vocal proponents of comprehensive immigration reform, and hasn't minced words in his criticism of House Republicans who want to block the effort. But he has also worked with GOP members for years on an immigration plan and more recently appeared with Republicans, including Valadao and Ryan, to talk about the need for reform. And he has criticized his own party for its previous failures on reform, particularly President Barack Obama, whom he singled out again on Thursday for his administration's deportation rates.

While many argue immigration reform would be politically helpful for Republicans who want to be more competitive with Latino voters, it's considered a political win for Democrats whatever the outcome. If it passes, they have fulfilled a campaign promise and can claim a victory. If it fails, they can lay the blame on Republicans, who in the House have refused to hold a vote on comprehensive immigration reform bills and don't plan to vote on smaller bills this year, either.

But if Democrats want a bill passed -- and they say they do -- they can't do it without support from Republicans, and Gutierrez said he and others are working to ensure they get it. He appeared at a briefing on Wednesday with Reps. Mike Coffman (R-Colo.), Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.) and Valadao to discuss young undocumented immigrants who want to join the military, and made the same appeal for bipartisan work on immigration reform.

"In this place bipartisanship is many times lauded, but rarely rewarded, and that's unfortunate," he said at the event. "Unfortunate for the nation and very unfortunate and dangerous as we move forward on comprehensive immigration reform."

Gutierrez told The Los Angeles Times on Thursday that Obama took the right tack in a speech on immigration reform by pledging to listen to Republicans' ideas.

"He didn't say, 'It's my way or the highway,'" Gutierrez said.

There are internal tensions on the Republican side as well from members pushing for reform. Rep. Joe Heck (R-Nev.), who has been targeted by immigration advocates because of a high Latino population in his district, issued a statement on Friday expressing disappointment that the "House Republican leadership may punt the issue until 2014 for political reasons."

"It’s extremely frustrating and very disappointing to hear reports that the House does not plan on voting on immigration reform legislation this year," Heck said. "This is yet another example of the leadership vacuum in Washington that rightly has so many people frustrated with this dysfunctional Congress."

Dreamer X 10-25-2013 07:31 PM

Re: Luis Gutierrez: Some Dems Say Not To Work With GOP On Immigration
 
Not surprised.

VeryNicePerson1 10-25-2013 07:58 PM

Re: Luis Gutierrez: Some Dems Say Not To Work With GOP On Immigration
 
Crazy stuff...wowwwww...lol...smh...

Pianoswithoutfaith 10-25-2013 07:59 PM

Re: Luis Gutierrez: Some Dems Say Not To Work With GOP On Immigration
 
At this point just giving back licenses would be enough ....

cacheton011 10-25-2013 10:06 PM

Re: Luis Gutierrez: Some Dems Say Not To Work With GOP On Immigration
 
Ever since Pelosi announced she would produce her own bill I knew something was up. I know we drink Dem Kool-aid every now and then, but in the end Dems are politicians too. I still think there are good Reps and Dems that want CIR, but the vast majority are happy with the status quo; it just works for both parties.

I think CIR will happen in 2015 or 2017 but only if it includes a path to citizenship; which means Dems have to be in control of congress.

DA User 10-26-2013 03:14 AM

Re: Luis Gutierrez: Some Dems Say Not To Work With GOP On Immigration
 
Lol. I think CIR will pass the House this October. Look at all the other positive news.

Pianoswithoutfaith 10-26-2013 04:30 AM

Re: Luis Gutierrez: Some Dems Say Not To Work With GOP On Immigration
 
you can tell DA user is just mocking when he adds a lol before his/hers post

2Face 10-26-2013 06:49 AM

Re: Luis Gutierrez: Some Dems Say Not To Work With GOP On Immigration
 
Gutierrez must publish the names of those cocksuckers who are back stabbing us.

Laterlater 10-26-2013 10:44 AM

Re: Luis Gutierrez: Some Dems Say Not To Work With GOP On Immigration
 
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Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 519030)
Gutierrez must publish the names of those cocksuckers who are back stabbing us.

Technically, as of yet, they haven't 'backstabbed' any CIR initiate - because, you know, as there hasn't been any in the House.

The ball and burden is still squarely (and masterfully - that was the whole point of the Obama speech) pivoted on the Republican controlled house to produce something.

Only the coming weeks can positively confirm if the Dems are as furtively uncooperative as the Congressman alleges.

danieltij 10-26-2013 04:43 PM

Re: Luis Gutierrez: Some Dems Say Not To Work With GOP On Immigration
 
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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 519028)
you can tell DA user is just mocking when he adds a lol before his/hers post

Why does she mock us? Maybe shes bitter about this whole being undocumented and takes it out on us


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