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dtrt09 11-01-2013 04:39 PM

Gutierrez: House Will Use GOP's Piecemeal Approach To Immigration Reform
 
Gutierrez now claims that he and the Democrats are going to try to pass the DreamAct and then move on piece by piece. Aha. You just wasted four months agitating against a piecemeal approach with the House Repubs, and now, with 12 working days left in the year, if this is all they are going to try to pass, it better be a Democratic Dream Act without an age cap. Will the President, who has done nothing to advance CIR, by the way, sign a DA only? I think there's a massive political fallout in the horizon because of the disastrous rollout of ACA, and I say this as someone who's worked in healthcare for 7 years. And I think the Democrats have squandered their momentum after the shutdown and are now on the defensive due to this blunder.

Quote:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...?utm_hp_ref=tw

Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.), a leading proponent of comprehensive immigration reform in the House, said Thursday in a radio interview that the GOP preference for a piecemeal approach is likely to win out.

"We are going to do them piecemeal, but in the end you're going to have a full menu," Gutierrez said on Chicago Public Radio's "Afternoon Shift." Gutierrez has said before that he's open to a piecemeal approach to immigration reform, as long as it eventually includes different measures affecting security, the so-called Dreamers and new workers.

Gutierrez acknowledged that Democrats need to change their strategy, given the current balance in Congress.

"Democrats in the House of Representatives have to stop negotiating from the point of view that they're in the majority," he said. "We're not."

Gutierrez also said that the piece of immigration legislation that is most likely to get passed will be a version of the Dream Act, which would provide a path to citizenship for the Dreamers, people brought to the United States as children who also meet other requirements.

"My sense is right now, it is the area we can reach the most consensus," he said.

"The parents, to me, need to be included in this process. I don't vilify them or condemn them," Gutierrez said, but added that Dream advocates themselves have succeeded in winning the argument. "The basic premise of this -- I didn't really like it too much when [Dream advocates] made it, because if somebody's innocent, then somebody is guilty. And I think there's a lot of innocence going around in this process."

While opponents of immigration reform say that the federal government won't carry out the enforcement measures that have been proposed, Gutierrez rebuked that argument, saying, "We're going to have E-verify. That means everybody in America is going to have to be verified for employment within 5 years or as I've negotiated ... the program ends, and 11 million people go back to being undocumented again."

He added that the path to citizenship laid out in the Senate immigration bill from earlier this year is so narrow that 3 million of the 11 million estimated undocumented immigrants in the U.S. won't qualify for legalized status.

On the issue of deportation, Gutierrez criticized Obama's administration. He expressed support for the president and his push for immigration reform, but said the administration needs to be more specific on what elements of reform it backs. Gutierrez noted that 100,000 people have been deported since June when the Senate adopted its immigration reform bill, and of those, eight out of 10 could have qualified for legalization under the Senate's provisions.

"There's something wrong with the system that deports people and puts them in harms way even though we all agree we should really be protecting them," he said.

dexterchach 11-01-2013 04:47 PM

Re: Gutierrez: House Will Use GOP's Piecemeal Approach To Immigration Reform
 
CIR will pass this year

VeryNicePerson1 11-01-2013 04:56 PM

Re: Gutierrez: House Will Use GOP's Piecemeal Approach To Immigration Reform
 
OMFG, can we just fucking pass this shit and move on...

...WHAT...THE...FUCK!...

marley monster 11-01-2013 05:13 PM

Re: Gutierrez: House Will Use GOP's Piecemeal Approach To Immigration Reform
 
This is just agitating.

DreamBig09 11-01-2013 06:46 PM

Re: Gutierrez: House Will Use GOP's Piecemeal Approach To Immigration Reform
 
I hope you guys know that when Republicans talk about PIECE MEAL approach its towards Border Security. Nothing about gaining citizenship.

Pianoswithoutfaith 11-01-2013 07:42 PM

Re: Gutierrez: House Will Use GOP's Piecemeal Approach To Immigration Reform
 
As long it gives us a more stable status that protects us and offers us a chance to become green card holders eventually. It should be to fine

Demise 11-01-2013 08:18 PM

Re: Gutierrez: House Will Use GOP's Piecemeal Approach To Immigration Reform
 
Pass something you incompetent idiots.

VeryNicePerson1 11-01-2013 08:41 PM

Re: Gutierrez: House Will Use GOP's Piecemeal Approach To Immigration Reform
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Demise (Post 519727)
Pass something you incompetent idiots.

lol...:D...

Morrow 11-01-2013 09:06 PM

Re: Gutierrez: House Will Use GOP's Piecemeal Approach To Immigration Reform
 
Guys, calm down. Either something will pass or it won't, we'll know it by the end of the year. There is no point of stressing over it now, (is not in our power to do so anyway), they will drag this as LONG as they can (at lease to please their redneck constituents).

My prediction, if something were to be pass this year, Dream Act does seems to have the most chance. And if Dream Act would to be pass, then I would predict it'll pass at the last moment.

(note: two BIG ifs)

As far as we know, Immigration Reform is inevitable, it will be within the next several years. Those of you who are not going anywhere if nothing happens this year... why not wait. And those who are going... you'll get closure the end of the year.

Now, is just a waiting game.

DA User 11-01-2013 09:34 PM

Re: Gutierrez: House Will Use GOP's Piecemeal Approach To Immigration Reform
 
As long as it passes. Whatever it takes. Whether it is piece meal or CIR. I don't think it matters.


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