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freshh. 11-11-2014 03:49 PM

White House says Obama is ‘looking forward’ to executive action on immigration
 
So, the press secretary seems to think that expanding deferred action to include 2 million additional people is bold action. :| There is video available on the source page. Brief mention about the number of potential beneficiaries starts at 3:13.

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It’s time for another showdown in the country’s capital. Republicans won the Senate and full control of Congress in the midterm elections.. The president is reportedly about to counter with executive action on immigration reform, though nobody knows how far he’ll go.

White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest told Fusion’s Jorge Ramos that the White House hasn’t made a final decision, but the president is ready to make good on his promise to act on behalf of the nation’s undocumented immigrants in the absence of a new law before the end of the year.

“The president is disappointed that this legislative solution won’t be achieved, but the president is looking forward to taking executive action on his own, to solve as many of these problems as he can,” Earnest said.

Few things will rile Republicans more than unilateral White House action on such a contentious issue, especially coming off of their midterm gains. Earnest acknowledged the White House’s displeasure with the election results while describing them as a call for more movement in Washington.

“[Voters] want their elected representatives in Washington, D.C. to get some results, and we haven’t seen a lot of results over the last two years in the United States Congress in particular,” Earnest said.

It’s a fine line given the departing Democratic Senate majority, but the White House wants to cast Republicans – who have internal splits on this issue – as the main reason for legislative delays and justify executive action now that they’ve won more power. Leading Republicans caution that such a confrontation would be playing with fire.

“If we get sidetracked with old ideological fights and holding each other accountable for long-held differences, we’re not going to make much progress,” Earnest said when asked about Senator Mitch McConnell’s warning that immigration executive action is “like waving a red flag in front of a bull.”

Republicans could respond with several tactics. The attorney general oversees the legal argument Obama will make for his authority to take action under current immigration law, and Republicans could block the Senate confirmation of Loretta Lynch, who Obama tapped to replace Attorney General Eric Holder. The could also withhold funding, though another shutdown looks unlikely, or even supersede Obama with a new immigration bill, which the president has always said he favors over acting on his own.

The White House is feeling heat from the left on the details of their executive action plan, even though they’re not yet known. Activists and immigrant groups shared a recent New York Times editorial’s fear that the plan won’t go far enough in the face of sure opposition. They argue that if the fight’s inevitable, it might as well be over a strong position.

“So why not be unapologetic, go bold, and really protect millions of our families that are waiting for the president to act,” said Cristina Jimenez, the managing director of the youth immigration activist group United We Dream, in an interview with Jorge Ramos.

A potential plan allowing upwards of 5 million undocumented immigrants to remain in the U.S. could be cut to a couple million or less as the president focuses on smaller slices of the nation’s 11 million undocumented.

“If we’re in a position where we think that changing the lives of two million immigrants in this country is timid, I don’t think that’s most people’s definition of timid,” Earnest said.

Earnest also hoped that looming showdowns wouldn’t distract from seemingly lower-hanging legislative fruit elsewhere.

“We shouldn’t allow those differences to interfere with our ability There is common ground around areas like trade, in areas like investing in quality early childhood education programs. Both sides agree that tax reform is long overdue,” Earnest said.

The battle lines aren’t drawn yet, but the president’s pen is ready. So are his opponents. Real reform may emerge from the fray, but our politics may be left more fractured than ever.
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g33k 11-11-2014 03:59 PM

Re: White House says Obama is ‘looking forward’ to executive action on immigration
 
Obama has the last word...

VeryNicePerson1 11-11-2014 07:27 PM

Re: White House says Obama is ‘looking forward’ to executive action on immigration
 
meh...dunno what to say anymore.

Whatever happens...happens.

I just want him to announce the details already.

MIdreamer 11-11-2014 08:42 PM

Re: White House says Obama is ‘looking forward’ to executive action on immigration
 
Well, 2 million is better than nothing.

IamAman 11-11-2014 08:52 PM

Re: White House says Obama is ‘looking forward’ to executive action on immigration
 
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Originally Posted by MIdreamer (Post 546100)
Well, 2 million is better than nothing.

It's 2 million better.

Source- I am a math minor.

drvenom 11-11-2014 10:34 PM

Re: White House says Obama is ‘looking forward’ to executive action on immigration
 
That's a small figure. It makes me a bit nervous. I hope he gets to 5 million.

Malign0n 11-11-2014 11:15 PM

Re: White House says Obama is ‘looking forward’ to executive action on immigration
 
What does 2 million entail? What sub population in the 11.5 Million equates to 2 million individuals.

drvenom 11-11-2014 11:25 PM

Re: White House says Obama is ‘looking forward’ to executive action on immigration
 
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Originally Posted by Malign0n (Post 546114)
What does 2 million entail? What sub population in the 11.5 Million equates to 2 million individuals.

I'm not sure. I remember that one of those agencies had estimated that about 4 million undocumented immigrants had minor USC children. I'm thinking those people would be the first in line. Maybe they'll take this group and require them to be here over 10 years. That might get to the 2 million figure? Or maybe people who have been here over 20 years? I don't think anyone really knows at this point, but 2 million is too low of a number.

How much is the press secretary likely to know about the president's intentions? Just wondering if the press secretary is just forecasting like we do here, or if his statement is based on inside information (i.e. Obama or one of his team members told him that's the number they are shooting for.).

g33k 11-11-2014 11:59 PM

Re: White House says Obama is ‘looking forward’ to executive action on immigration
 
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Originally Posted by drvenom (Post 546116)
I'm not sure. I remember that one of those agencies had estimated that about 4 million undocumented immigrants had minor USC children. I'm thinking those people would be the first in line. Maybe they'll take this group and require them to be here over 10 years. That might get to the 2 million figure? Or maybe people who have been here over 20 years? I don't think anyone really knows at this point, but 2 million is too low of a number.

How much is the press secretary likely to know about the president's intentions? Just wondering if the press secretary is just forecasting like we do here, or if his statement is based on inside information (i.e. Obama or one of his team members told him that's the number they are shooting for.).

Remember that not everyone who qualifies will submit application.

Malign0n 11-12-2014 12:06 AM

Re: White House says Obama is ‘looking forward’ to executive action on immigration
 
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Originally Posted by drvenom (Post 546116)
How much is the press secretary likely to know about the president's intentions? Just wondering if the press secretary is just forecasting like we do here, or if his statement is based on inside information (i.e. Obama or one of his team members told him that's the number they are shooting for.).

You may have a point. It may be that Earnest came up with that number to make the point that whatever they're shooting for, it's not "timid". Hoping that the 2 million number is not the case.


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