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IamAman 11-11-2015 05:18 PM

Clock Ticks on Obama Administration Appeal of Ruling in Immigration Case
 
http://www.texaslawyer.com/id=120274...migration-Case
I hope the intentional stall by the 5th circuit comes back and bites them in the ass and the Supreme Court decides to expedite this.

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One member of a three-judge panel issued a strongly worded dissent and criticized the majority for moving slowly when the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit upheld a district court's halting of the Obama administration's plans to implement new immigration rules.
"I have a firm and definite conviction that a mistake has been made. That mistake has been exacerbated by the extended delay that has occurred in deciding this 'expedited' appeal. There is no justification for that delay," Fifth Circuit Judge Carolyn King wrote in her dissent to the majority opinion drafted by Fifth Circuit Judge Jerry E. Smith, who was joined by Judge Jennifer Walker Elrod.
Why would a dissenting judge so starkly scold her peers in the majority as pokey? Perhaps because the clock is ticking for the Obama administration to appeal the Fifth Circuit ruling, as it announced Nov. 10 that it would do, to prevail at the U.S. Supreme Court and finally implement its proposed new rules. All that assume that the nation's high court gives the administration the go-ahead before the president leaves office in January 2017.
"It certainly is late in the year but not impossibly late," said Nina Perales, the vice president of litigation for the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund (MALDEF) in San Antonio, who represents amicus filers in the litigation.
"If it all happens expeditiously, the case could be heard," said Melissa Crow, the legal director for the American Immigration Council, who represents other amici in the litigation, who also sided with the Obama administration.
The immigration case first reached the Fifth Circuit in late February, after U.S. District Judge Andrew Hanen, who sits in Brownsville, agreed with Texas and 25 other states that sued the federal government. On the basis of the states' allegations that the proposed new immigration rules would unfairly impose burdensome cost on them, Hanen imposed a temporary ban stopping the Obama administration from implementing the changes that would allow work permits and stop deportations of more than 4 million immigrants.
The Obama administration sought a stay of Hanen's ruling. The Fifth Circuit took until late spring to refuse to issue a stay. Then, when the Obama administration appealed the Hanen injunction, arguing that it lacked merit, the Fifth Circuit took until this week to issue its ruling upholding the district judge's ban.
If the Obama administration appeals the Fifth Circuit's most recent ruling to the U.S. Supreme Court and its justices overturn it, that outcome could happen too late for the president to put the new policies into effect. Such a risk exists for the Obama administration, considering the typical months that elapse before the high court considers in a conference a petition for writ of certiorari, schedules and hears oral arguments, and issues an opinion.
In the Fifth Circuit majority opinion, Smith agreed with Texas that the state and its 25 other co-plaintiff states could argue that they were harmed by the costs of the proposed immigration rules, based on such possible increased expenditure as issuing driver's licenses to those allowed to stay and receive documentation.
In trying to implement the new rules, the Obama administration stepped over congressional authority, Smith wrote, stating: "Congress did not intend to make immune from judicial review an agency action that reclassifies millions of illegal aliens in a way that imposes substantial costs on states."
In her dissent, however, King argued that the states had no standing.
"The majority's breathtaking expansion of state standing would inject the courts into far more federal-state disputes and review of the political branches than is now the case," she wrote.
Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, whose office represents the plaintiff states, welcomed the Fifth Circuit ruling.
"Today, the Fifth Circuit asserted that the separation of powers remains the law of the land, and the president must follow the rule of law, just like everybody else. Throughout this process, the Obama administration has aggressively disregarded the constitutional limits on executive power, and Texas, leading a charge of 26 states, has secured an important victory to put a halt to the president's lawlessness," he said in a written statement.
But Crow and Perales expressed their hopes that U.S. Department of Justice lawyers, representing the Obama administration, have already put the key in the ignition to get their appeal before the Supreme Court.
Recent precedents show that the high court has moved quickly in litigation of such national importance, Perales said. In redistricting litigation in 2011, in which Texas was a defendant, the state appealed a three-judge ruling to the Supreme Court around Thanksgiving, and the high court decided the case by March of 2012, she said.
"So yes, a case can move quickly, yes, in recent history, and yes, in a case from Texas," Perales said.
Crow said: "We hope that the DOJ will do it very quickly. They have 90 days to file a cert petition, but it wouldn't be wise for them to take that long." Texas and the other states then would have 30 days to supply their response, unless the high court grants an extension, which she would hope they would not do, Crow said.
Maybe that message about no extensions was the one King hoped to deliver when she included the last sentence in her dissent scolding her peers for moving slowly.
"We loved her opinion," Crow said.

DACA-IR-DA 11-11-2015 08:27 PM

Re: Clock Ticks on Obama Administration Appeal of Ruling in Immigration Case
 
So I have read that the decision can come next Summer? Here we are seeing March?

IamAman 11-12-2015 01:13 AM

Re: Clock Ticks on Obama Administration Appeal of Ruling in Immigration Case
 
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Originally Posted by DACA-IR-DA (Post 562881)
So I have read that the decision can come next Summer? Here we are seeing March?

I think best case they hear the case in March and have a decision in summer.

DACA-IR-DA 11-12-2015 03:13 AM

Re: Clock Ticks on Obama Administration Appeal of Ruling in Immigration Case
 
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Originally Posted by IamAman (Post 562886)
I think best case they hear the case in March and have a decision in summer.

You think it can drag to Fall?

Decision by Summer would be awesome.

Get EAD before 2016 ends would be a treat :).

Pianoswithoutfaith 11-12-2015 03:30 AM

Re: Clock Ticks on Obama Administration Appeal of Ruling in Immigration Case
 
you know depending who wins, they can easily just use their power to end DACA

dtrt09 11-12-2015 03:51 PM

Re: Clock Ticks on Obama Administration Appeal of Ruling in Immigration Case
 
I'm trying to stay positive here, yet realistic and see the actual EVIDENCE staring us right in the face:

I hope everyone realizes how f*d up we are with this litigation - it is not a guarantee that the Supreme Court will agree to hear it, and we won't know whether they accept to hear the case until two months from now in January. Texas can ask for an extension to file their response brief - and from what I've read, it is almost always automatically granted - so then this pushes the date the high court reviews the case in order to accept oral argument until February. That would be too late for this term.

Then, if they do, the chance that they rule in favor of Executive 'reach' is still 50/50 despite what the non-effective America's Voice crowd tells you. If they rule in our favor, my God, we get a small break. What happens if a Republican wins the White House? He or she is in full power to cancel DACA and DAPA.

I am confused as to why the administration is not requesting during litigation that the government be allowed to proceed with the modified DACA. Remember, there aren't, and there were not going to be 3 deferred action plans: there would be DACA with the age cap removed and eligibility date moved forward by two years; and then a NEW program, DAPA. Does the 5th circuit injuction mean that the Obama administration and future administrations are banned from making *ANY* updated or changes to DACA since DACA is an *existing*, not new, deferred action plan? I read the circuit court response and their problem and their citations are clearly against DAPA, not DACA or even the DACA extension since the percentage of indiviudals affected would be very small compared to the undocumented population at large. Why have advocates not pushed the administration to defend their ability to make modifications and updates to an already established program is beyond me because they are not advancing the immigration reform cause by not fighting for this.

Lastly, there is no reason not to issue a deportation moratorium for those who have been here as long as we have and have established lives here. That is all on the White House, not the courts.

Pianoswithoutfaith 11-12-2015 06:10 PM

Re: Clock Ticks on Obama Administration Appeal of Ruling in Immigration Case
 
What worries me more if the court rules against this by that effect Original DACA is done for.

dtrt09 11-12-2015 10:09 PM

Re: Clock Ticks on Obama Administration Appeal of Ruling in Immigration Case
 
It's all very worrying and frankly, depressing.

Dres2011 11-12-2015 10:51 PM

Re: Clock Ticks on Obama Administration Appeal of Ruling in Immigration Case
 
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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 562899)
What worries me more if the court rules against this by that effect Original DACA is done for.

I am very worried about that as well.

IamAman 11-12-2015 11:46 PM

Re: Clock Ticks on Obama Administration Appeal of Ruling in Immigration Case
 
Honestly, I feel good. The Supreme Court has been on the right side of history lately - Obamacare, gay rights, etc. There is even a Latina judge on the court so I think we'd at least get a 5-4 win here.

This is it guys, this is our Brown vs. the Board of Education moment. We are part of this country's history now.


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