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Swim19 02-16-2017 08:50 PM

US immigrant stripped of 'dreamer' status in part over alleged gang tattoo
 
Daniel no longer has DACA:

Quote:

The US government has terminated a detained undocumented immigrant’s “dreamer” status, alleging that he is a gang member in part because of a tattoo on his arm that says “peace” in Spanish.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...P=share_btn_tw

Gnome 02-16-2017 08:56 PM

Re: US immigrant stripped of 'dreamer' status in part over alleged gang tattoo
 
As others on the forum have noted, this happened even during Obama's presidency – it is by definition that you could lose DACA if you commit a crime. This, and anything deportation-related, just gets a lot more press now with Trump in power.

andreagb 02-16-2017 09:02 PM

Re: US immigrant stripped of 'dreamer' status in part over alleged gang tattoo
 
So his tattoo says La Paz B.C.S. ? (Baja California Sur) wth is that gang related ?

JohannBernoulli1667 02-16-2017 09:10 PM

Re: US immigrant stripped of 'dreamer' status in part over alleged gang tattoo
 
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Originally Posted by Gnome (Post 604467)
As others on the forum have noted, this happened even during Obama's presidency – it is by definition that you could lose DACA if you commit a crime. This, and anything deportation-related, just gets a lot more press now with Trump in power.


Agree! Harsh, but the reality is that Daniel is not a dreamer.

Dreamers pursue education, or build businesses and pursue the American dream.

It sounds harsh but DACA should have at the very minimum a requirement of some education beyond high school, whether this is trade school, community college or Trump University is irrelevant.

As much as I want to sympathize with Daniel. He does not represent us.

I know it sounds harsh, but the dreamer movement is not about becoming a regular member of society. Dreamers do not cross their arms and conform, they do not act like gangsters, we do not do drugs or drive under the influence.


That is not why we ask for relief from deportation. We ask for relief because we want to make a difference.

We want to be business owners, educators, doctors, scientists, engineers etc...

We shoot to work at the top of our game, we work overtime to be able to afford tuition.



Sometimes I feel we all forget about our purpose, the dream.


Yesterday I had a real good conversation with many of my fellow engineer dreamers, great people, different views.

Daniel deserves to be deported. It was made very clear from the beginning that there would be no tolerance. The election was lost. There are consequences.


I will not defend that guy. I feel bad for him, his family failed him, his community failed him. At the end of the day he made decisions that led him to be stripped from his DACA.

Do I feel that ICE violated his rights of privacy etc... sure but it is not an excuse.


With that said, Donald Trump today acknowledged him during the press conference. I am glad he was bold enough to say, the great majority of dreamers are good people.

There are exceptions and he is right.

I am not a Trump supporter but I agree with his statement.

libertarian1776 02-16-2017 09:14 PM

Re: US immigrant stripped of 'dreamer' status in part over alleged gang tattoo
 
good! this guy is no dreamer, he denied being in a gang cause ge got caught. no sympathies... bye bye!

KansasCityChiefs 02-16-2017 09:18 PM

Re: US immigrant stripped of 'dreamer' status in part over alleged gang tattoo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andreagb (Post 604472)
So his tattoo says La Paz B.C.S. ? (Baja California Sur) wth is that gang related ?

As a retired LEO that frequently worked the gang unit in so cali, 'BCS' stands for baja california sureno (not sur) which indicates a member of the sureno (stands for 'southerner') gangs and is an affiliate of the mm (mexican mafia).

andreagb 02-16-2017 09:25 PM

Re: US immigrant stripped of 'dreamer' status in part over alleged gang tattoo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KansasCityChiefs (Post 604478)
As a retired LEO that frequently worked the gang unit in so cali, 'BCS' stands for baja california sureno (not sur) which indicates a member of the sureno (stands for 'southerner') gangs and is an affiliate of the mm (mexican mafia).

Ah I see, thanks!

Gnome 02-16-2017 09:34 PM

Re: US immigrant stripped of 'dreamer' status in part over alleged gang tattoo
 
Another thing to keep in mind that even Permanent Residence (Green Card) can be lost if you commit a crime, so it's not whatsoever surprising that you could lose DACA in the same way.

I could see news articles being published about criminals who have lost their Green Card (the status conferred by it), and blaming it on Trump. Newsworthy because of his controversial comments in the past, but none of it is out of the ordinary.

g33k 02-16-2017 09:47 PM

Re: US immigrant stripped of 'dreamer' status in part over alleged gang tattoo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 604464)

It still doesn't make any sense. La paz, BCS is a place. How is that gang related? Its like having a tattoo that says Los Angeles, California.

JohannBernoulli1667 02-16-2017 09:48 PM

Re: US immigrant stripped of 'dreamer' status in part over alleged gang tattoo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KansasCityChiefs (Post 604478)
As a retired LEO that frequently worked the gang unit in so cali, 'BCS' stands for baja california sureno (not sur) which indicates a member of the sureno (stands for 'southerner') gangs and is an affiliate of the mm (mexican mafia).

Ban this guy, he is a chiefs fan!


Go Broncos!


:lol:


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