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Swim19 06-30-2017 04:07 PM

A group of Republican attorneys general is picking a fight with Trump on immigration
 
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Despite their frustrations, however, few have directly picked a fight with the president about DACA. (The anti-immigration group ALIPAC withdrew its endorsement of him in May over the issue, but they’re not considered to be a major player either among immigration hawks or in the conservative movement.) And elected Republican officials have generally been hesitant to directly criticize Trump’s actions. But now a group of them are calling him out directly on one of his own signature issues.


Will the threat work? It’s unclear.

Legally, it’s a little weird to cite the case against DAPA as evidence that DACA is unconstitutional; while the Fifth Circuit’s decision in that case was pretty harsh on DACA, it also took pains to distinguish the two programs in a way that made DACA seem more defensible. And since the Trump administration hasn’t been shy about stripping immigrants of their DACA protections, and even deporting them, it might have an easier time arguing that DACA isn’t just a backdoor way to grant legal status.



On the other hand, the DAPA lawsuit made it pretty clear that federal Southern District of Texas Judge Andrew Hanen, and the Fifth Circuit, is skeptical of protecting groups of unauthorized immigrants as a general rule. It seems pretty likely both would side against DACA if they got the chance. And if Paxton leads another state lawsuit, he’d likely start it in Hanen’s district — where a favorable ruling is nearly guaranteed.


Politically, the fight is tougher. DREAMers are the most politically sympathetic unauthorized immigrants there are — they’re US-raised, fluent in English, well-connected. There’s a reason the DACA program didn’t get the kind of legal battle when it was introduced in 2012 that the expansions of deferred action would get two years later — few Republicans wanted to take a stand against people who’d graduated from American schools and were starting American careers.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...rs-immigration

IamAman 06-30-2017 05:14 PM

Re: A group of Republican attorneys general is picking a fight with Trump on immigrat
 
All it takes is to find one judge to put an injunction on it and you'll look at a year's delay before it ever reaches the supreme court. - that is if Trump wants to fight it. Merit has little to do with it.

Pianoswithoutfaith 06-30-2017 05:28 PM

Re: A group of Republican attorneys general is picking a fight with Trump on immigrat
 
I doubt trump would want to fight it. A few months ago, it was reported his staff were looking into ways of ending DACA with out making Trump look bad

unthinkable 06-30-2017 05:34 PM

Re: A group of Republican attorneys general is picking a fight with Trump on immigrat
 
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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 616962)
I doubt trump would want to fight it. A few months ago, it was reported his staff were looking into ways of ending DACA with out making Trump look bad

Hi piano

Supportdaca 06-30-2017 05:51 PM

Re: A group of Republican attorneys general is picking a fight with Trump on immigrat
 
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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 616962)
I doubt trump would want to fight it. A few months ago, it was reported his staff were looking into ways of ending DACA with out making Trump look bad

Well if they didn't want to make him look bad why are they telling us?

Transcend 06-30-2017 06:06 PM

Re: A group of Republican attorneys general is picking a fight with Trump on immigrat
 
They never announced it out loud. We know about this through leaks a.k.a people in the administration that are against this speaking about it to reporters off-the-record.

Supportdaca 06-30-2017 06:25 PM

Re: A group of Republican attorneys general is picking a fight with Trump on immigrat
 
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Originally Posted by Transcend (Post 616970)
They never announced it out loud. We know about this through leaks a.k.a people in the administration that are against this speaking about it to reporters off-the-record.

Well they failed miserably

Swim19 06-30-2017 06:59 PM

Re: A group of Republican attorneys general is picking a fight with Trump on immigrat
 
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Originally Posted by IamAman (Post 616959)
All it takes is to find one judge to put an injunction on it and you'll look at a year's delay before it ever reaches the supreme court. - that is if Trump wants to fight it. Merit has little to do with it.

I'm hoping they can argue that only new applicants will be effected by the injunction and allow renewals.

libertarian1776 06-30-2017 07:06 PM

Re: A group of Republican attorneys general is picking a fight with Trump on immigrat
 
lol damn swim, thats harsh even for you.

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Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 616977)
I'm hoping they can argue that only new applicants will be effected by the injunction and allow renewals.


godsavethequeen 06-30-2017 07:10 PM

Re: A group of Republican attorneys general is picking a fight with Trump on immigrat
 
It's been real, USA.


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