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Vze77ach 09-14-2017 02:32 PM

3 problems that could block Democrats' DACA 'deal' with Trump
 
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/3-...rticle/2634424

isk84life 09-14-2017 02:33 PM

Re: 3 problems that could block Democrats' DACA 'deal' with Trump
 
Post the text man. Follow the forum guidelines.

eva02 09-14-2017 02:37 PM

Re: 3 problems that could block Democrats' DACA 'deal' with Trump
 
At least we have bipartisan negotiations and Trump has thrusted us back in the spotlight.

"We can not forget about DACA"

trac3rt 09-14-2017 02:38 PM

Re: 3 problems that could block Democrats' DACA 'deal' with Trump
 
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Democrats in the House and Senate said Thursday they had a deal with President Trump to protect immigrants who were brought to the U.S. illegally as children, but passing that "deal" through Congress still faces significant hurdles.

By Thursday afternoon, three major problems emerged with the supposed deal described by House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y.

First, Pelosi said Democrats are angling to pass a "Dream Act" bill from Rep. Lucille Roybal-Allard, D-Calif., that would give so-called Dreamers a path to permanent resident status in the U.S., and even U.S. citizenship.

Democrats are pushing for that fix in anticipation of Trump rescinding former President Barack Obama's Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals policy in March.

But Trump himself seemed to raise questions about the Roybal-Allard bill, as he said at the White House Thursday morning, "We are not looking at citizenship. We are not looking at amnesty."

That seems to directly contradict Pelosi's note to Democrats, which said "any solution to the challenge facing the Dreamers must include the Dream Act" that Roybal-Allard sponsored.

House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., pointed out that conflict as an example of why Trump's talk with Democrats should be seen as talks, and not a negotiation that led to a deal.

"That's why this was not a negotiation, these are discussions understanding people's positions," he said.

Democrats also said they would be open to tougher border security measures as part of a deal to restore DACA privileges to Dreamers. But in her note to Democrats, Pelosi said they want language that Reps. Michael McCaul, R-Texas, and Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., supported in 2013.

That language would have required DHS to create a border enforcement strategy.

The problem there for Democrats is that McCaul, who chairs the House Homeland Security Committee, appears to have moved on from that older idea.

He introduced a bill in July called the Border Security for America Act that would provide $10 billion in funding for the border wall. It would also push to secure U.S. points of entry, add border patrol agents, and take other concrete steps to boost border enforcement.

McCaul's new bill indicates that he is well past the idea of simply asking for a strategy, and wants to implement one, which is a sign Democrats will likely find it hard to get to a deal based on the softer language from 2013.

A third, related problem for Democrats is their insistence that there is no wall funding in the deal. McCaul himself said Thursday that he wants the wall now.

"I think this is probably the time to get it done," he told the Washington Examiner. "I think a wall where appropriate and fencing and technology, integrating a smart border, is really the way to go. That's what were going to authorize."

"I've been working with the administration on this bill, it's been introduced, and we plan to mark it up and hopefully we can get all of this to the floor by sometime late-October or before Thanksgiving," he said.

McCaul also downplayed Trump's comments indicating that he can wait more on the wall.

"These are going to be discussions that we'll be having the next month in a lot of settings," he said. "But I do feel for the first time in my political career in my seventh term that we finally have an opportunity to get this done."

Got_Daca 09-14-2017 02:41 PM

Re: 3 problems that could block Democrats' DACA 'deal' with Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trac3rt (Post 639428)
Text below:



Democrats in the House and Senate said Thursday they had a deal with President Trump to protect immigrants who were brought to the U.S. illegally as children, but passing that "deal" through Congress still faces significant hurdles.

By Thursday afternoon, three major problems emerged with the supposed deal described by House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y.

First, Pelosi said Democrats are angling to pass a "Dream Act" bill from Rep. Lucille Roybal-Allard, D-Calif., that would give so-called Dreamers a path to permanent resident status in the U.S., and even U.S. citizenship.

Democrats are pushing for that fix in anticipation of Trump rescinding former President Barack Obama's Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals policy in March.

But Trump himself seemed to raise questions about the Roybal-Allard bill, as he said at the White House Thursday morning, "We are not looking at citizenship. We are not looking at amnesty."

That seems to directly contradict Pelosi's note to Democrats, which said "any solution to the challenge facing the Dreamers must include the Dream Act" that Roybal-Allard sponsored.

House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., pointed out that conflict as an example of why Trump's talk with Democrats should be seen as talks, and not a negotiation that led to a deal.

"That's why this was not a negotiation, these are discussions understanding people's positions," he said.

Democrats also said they would be open to tougher border security measures as part of a deal to restore DACA privileges to Dreamers. But in her note to Democrats, Pelosi said they want language that Reps. Michael McCaul, R-Texas, and Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., supported in 2013.

That language would have required DHS to create a border enforcement strategy.

The problem there for Democrats is that McCaul, who chairs the House Homeland Security Committee, appears to have moved on from that older idea.

He introduced a bill in July called the Border Security for America Act that would provide $10 billion in funding for the border wall. It would also push to secure U.S. points of entry, add border patrol agents, and take other concrete steps to boost border enforcement.

McCaul's new bill indicates that he is well past the idea of simply asking for a strategy, and wants to implement one, which is a sign Democrats will likely find it hard to get to a deal based on the softer language from 2013.

A third, related problem for Democrats is their insistence that there is no wall funding in the deal. McCaul himself said Thursday that he wants the wall now.

"I think this is probably the time to get it done," he told the Washington Examiner. "I think a wall where appropriate and fencing and technology, integrating a smart border, is really the way to go. That's what were going to authorize."

"I've been working with the administration on this bill, it's been introduced, and we plan to mark it up and hopefully we can get all of this to the floor by sometime late-October or before Thanksgiving," he said.

McCaul also downplayed Trump's comments indicating that he can wait more on the wall.

"These are going to be discussions that we'll be having the next month in a lot of settings," he said. "But I do feel for the first time in my political career in my seventh term that we finally have an opportunity to get this done."

Where is the 2nd hurdle?

hate it when people cant count

dado123 09-14-2017 02:46 PM

Re: 3 problems that could block Democrats' DACA 'deal' with Trump
 
seems a lot of moving parts on border security stuff but that is why they get paid the big bucks, figure it out congress people.

desice 09-14-2017 02:47 PM

Re: 3 problems that could block Democrats' DACA 'deal' with Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 639436)
Where is the 2nd hurdle?

hate it when people cant count

Lol, man it's not explicit, but the second hurdle is that what the democrats are okay with in terms of border security is no longer what the republicans are expecting.

2MoreYears 09-14-2017 02:53 PM

Re: 3 problems that could block Democrats' DACA 'deal' with Trump
 
It's inhuman not to pass legislation that replaces DACA and and if that's the case Republicans will own it.


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