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Swim19 09-29-2017 11:01 AM

We’re starting to see the outlines of a conservative plan to protect DREAMers
 
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There’s a lot of circular debate over how to make DACA conservative

Conversations on DACA seem to still be in early stages.
Conservatives in the House have started a working group led by Idaho Republican Rep. Raúl Labrador, who is also in a working group with Republican leadership. In the Senate, Tillis and Lankford’s SUCCEED Act was largely welcomed as the conservative alternative to the Democrats’ push for the DREAM Act — but it’s unlikely to garner enough votes on the other side of the aisle to become law on its own.


As Lind writes, “it is unlikely, to say the least, that any of these bills would have 60 votes in the Senate as they exist today — and that Trump would sign a bill that only addressed the DREAMer question.”


What will be in the compromise? Everyone — including Democrats — have said they can agree to some kind of border security package, as long as it’s not funding for the border wall. That could mean anything from boots on the ground to increased surveillance technology. Even Lankford and Tillis, who proposed the SUCCEED Act this week, say their bill should only be part of the proposal to legislatively address DACA.
But there are certain baseline disagreements within the Republican Party that will likely come to a head once debate heats up, none of which have been cleared up by the president — namely what Republicans can reasonably pass as “not amnesty.”


For some, any path to citizenship is a difficult line to cross — especially without a large border security package added on.



“There would have to be a whole lot more than a wall if I were to give amnesty to a whole lot of illegal aliens who are going to take jobs from American citizens and suppress the wages of American citizens by artificially inflating the labor force,” Rep. Mo Brooks (R-AL) said.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...-proposal-daca

I feel like the GOP are asking for too much.

Chn 09-29-2017 11:08 AM

Re: We’re starting to see the outlines of a conservative plan to protect DREAMers
 
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Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 644315)
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...-proposal-daca

I feel like the GOP are asking for too much.

They've always asked for too much and then they throw their hands up and say "we tried, blame Democrats"
This should have been a quick DREAM Act + Border Security bill, but the GOP is all over the place. Where's their leadership?
Hopefully Democrats can stay firm and attach DA to government funding if this continues to drag on.

jaylove16 09-29-2017 11:11 AM

Re: We’re starting to see the outlines of a conservative plan to protect DREAMers
 
I don’t think the super hardliners in the freedom Caucus are going to have any sway. Hell, we have people in the freedom caucus who support a path to citizenship. Let’s wait and see what the Daca task force comes up with.

dado123 09-29-2017 11:14 AM

Re: We’re starting to see the outlines of a conservative plan to protect DREAMers
 
Durbin was meeting this week with the Republican Tillis and Lankford with regards to dreamer legislation, hopefully, we hear more details on that meeting soon.

eva02 09-29-2017 11:16 AM

Re: We’re starting to see the outlines of a conservative plan to protect DREAMers
 
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Originally Posted by jaylove16 (Post 644317)
I don’t think the super hardliners in the freedom Caucus are going to have any sway. Hell, we have people in the freedom caucus who support a path to citizenship. Let’s wait and see what the Daca task force comes up with.

Freedom caucus is founded by the Koch brothers. They are only anti immigrant for votes, but the Koch brothers support immigration.

I just think they are all over the place because Teump, Ryan and Mcconell have no balls to lead on this issue and are just as over the place as the republicans.

JohannBernoulli1667 09-29-2017 11:20 AM

Re: We’re starting to see the outlines of a conservative plan to protect DREAMers
 
Suppress wages artificially? WTF is wrong with this idiot?

bad.bunny 09-29-2017 12:05 PM

Re: We’re starting to see the outlines of a conservative plan to protect DREAMers
 
there asking for the deportation of all undocus, a white-only immigtation system, a barrier to seperete our brothers and sisters in exhange for permanent daca or a bill that makes dreamers slaves with no rights. but ppl here insist in voting for gop when legalized

Pianoswithoutfaith 09-29-2017 12:16 PM

Re: We’re starting to see the outlines of a conservative plan to protect DREAMers
 
Yeah why do dreamers here sing about voting republican

versailles 09-29-2017 01:10 PM

Re: We’re starting to see the outlines of a conservative plan to protect DREAMers
 
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Originally Posted by bad.bunny (Post 644327)
there asking for the deportation of all undocus, a white-only immigtation system, a barrier to seperete our brothers and sisters in exhange for permanent daca or a bill that makes dreamers slaves with no rights. but ppl here insist in voting for gop when legalized

every decent country should have strong borders....
what's bad about that.
and lol @ being slaves if we get legalized, we're already virtually slaves

bad.bunny 09-29-2017 01:21 PM

Re: We’re starting to see the outlines of a conservative plan to protect DREAMers
 
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Originally Posted by versailles (Post 644354)
every decent country should have strong borders....
what's bad about that.
and lol @ being slaves if we get legalized, we're already virtually slaves

but we still are protected by the constitution regardless. with this bill, we do not.


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