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Swim19 12-04-2017 04:09 PM
‘This is the moment’: Dreamers face make-or-break push on immigration fight w/ Trump
 
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Through three presidents over a decade, young undocumented immigrants known as “dreamers” have emerged as a potent political force and the sympathetic public face of the immigration debate.

Since 2012, roughly 800,000 have secured permits from the government allowing them to work without fear of deportation under an Obama-era program. Eighty-six percent of the public favors allowing them to permanently remain in the country. Cultural icons from Barack Obama to Kim Kardashian West have sent messages of support.
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This month, the dreamers face the biggest test yet of their political clout — a make-or-break moment in their long path to the precipice of becoming fully legalized residents. A loss would mean a devastating return to living in the shadows and the perpetual fear of being deported.
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This fight could have even greater consequences: Some Democrats have suggested they will not support a must-pass spending bill without a deal that offers the dreamers a path to citizenship. Last week, Republican Reps. Carlos Curbelo and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, both of Florida, added their names to that list. More than two dozen other moderate GOP lawmakers are expected to make similar pledges in the coming days.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.60d8bacae560

jaylove16 12-04-2017 04:14 PM
Re: ‘This is the moment’: Dreamers face make-or-break push on immigration fight w/ Tr
 
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Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 656753)
If 30 gop reps insist on not voting for a spending bill without DACA provisions, the leadership has no other choice but to cave . You know the freedom Caucus are going to vote against any spending bill regardless.

Smooth 12-04-2017 04:30 PM
Re: ‘This is the moment’: Dreamers face make-or-break push on immigration fight w/ Tr
 
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Originally Posted by jaylove16 (Post 656754)
If 30 gop reps insist on not voting for a spending bill without DACA provisions, the leadership has no other choice but to cave . You know the freedom Caucus are going to vote against any spending bill regardless.
Not that straight forward. Wait. On Thursday, we will have a better understanding of what might happen.

Demise 12-04-2017 04:33 PM
Re: ‘This is the moment’: Dreamers face make-or-break push on immigration fight w/ Tr
 
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Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 656756)
Not that straight forward. Wait. On Thursday, we will have a better understanding of what might happen.
5 bucks say Dotard will shit up another meeting.

Got_Daca 12-04-2017 04:42 PM
Re: ‘This is the moment’: Dreamers face make-or-break push on immigration fight w/ Tr
 
I have a good feeling about this

1. Trump initiated 2nd meeting

2. Schumer says deal will be DA + border security

3. Admin promise to Flake

4. 25+ house GOPs siding for DA

5. 11th hour

Demise 12-04-2017 04:44 PM
Re: ‘This is the moment’: Dreamers face make-or-break push on immigration fight w/ Tr
 
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Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 656760)
I have a good feeling about this

1. Trump initiated 2nd meeting

2. Schumer says deal will be DA + border security

3. Admin promise to Flake

4. 25+ house GOPs siding for DA

5. 11th hour
At this point fuck border security. Dotard fucked that up.

libertarian1776 12-04-2017 04:46 PM
Re: ‘This is the moment’: Dreamers face make-or-break push on immigration fight w/ Tr
 
there is just no way though. there's gotta be a tough security provision (no interior enforcement) with the dream act for it to pass.

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Originally Posted by Demise (Post 656761)
At this point fuck border security. Dotard fucked that up.

Smooth 12-04-2017 04:47 PM
Re: ‘This is the moment’: Dreamers face make-or-break push on immigration fight w/ Tr
 
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Originally Posted by Demise (Post 656761)
At this point fuck border security. Dotard fucked that up.
That's not going to happen. We hate border security as much as they dislike the idea of legalizing us. So, we unfortunately have to give and take.

I say this goes on to 12/22.

dreamer__13 12-04-2017 04:48 PM
Re: ‘This is the moment’: Dreamers face make-or-break push on immigration fight w/ Tr
 
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Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 656764)
That's not going to happen. We hate border security as much as they dislike the idea of legalizing us. So, we unfortunately have to give and take.

I say this goes on to 12/22.
I read last week that Durbin was working on something. It’s not going to be a clean DA. It never was.

Smooth 12-04-2017 04:49 PM
Re: ‘This is the moment’: Dreamers face make-or-break push on immigration fight w/ Tr
 
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Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 656763)
there is just no way though. there's gotta be a tough security provision (no interior enforcement) with the dream act for it to pass.
Yeah, at this point, you should all get the impression how difficult, if not impossible, it is to pass a legalization bill without giving the GOP something it wants. If you are still pushing for a clean bill thinking it is possible, I have some news for you . . .


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