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Swim19 12-17-2017 01:37 PM

If Congress Doesn’t Act Soon To Save Dreamers, It Might Not Save Them At All
 
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Immigration activists want Congress to attach a measure helping DACA recipients stay in the country to a government spending bill that must pass by Dec. 22. There’s one big problem, though: Even though Republican leaders like Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) say they want to help these immigrants, known as Dreamers, they say they don’t want to attach a fix to the spending bill. They’ll take care of the problem later ― they promise.

But when it comes to immigration reform in Congress, “later” often means “never,” immigration advocates say. They would know: This has all happened before.
For Dreamers, their allies say, it’s now ― or, most likely, never.

“From our point of view,” said Frank Sharry, president of the pro-reform group America’s Voice and a longtime immigration advocate, “it’s the 22nd or bust.”
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Immigration advocates see the writing on the wall. Even though there’s support from voters, the White House and lawmakers on both sides of the aisle to help Dreamers, and a clear March “deadline” to act, they fear a standalone bill could fall victim to the same things that brought down comprehensive immigration reform efforts four years ago ― a House speaker held hostage by hard-liners in the Republican Party, and a president and GOP members who want drastic immigration measures in return for a deal.
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Just like four years ago, many GOP lawmakers will only vote for Dreamer protections if they are accompanied by hard-line immigration enforcement measures. But that would imperil the bill’s chances with Democrats, making it unlikely it would ever pass the Senate.
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There’s one more crucial difference the current Dreamer legislation has over the 2013 comprehensive immigration reform bill, and it’s one that might put particular pressure on a president in a constant search for positive headlines: There’s going to be a clear effect if this effort fails.

DACA was still in effect when the 2013 process collapsed. But this time around, failure would put hundreds of thousands of young people who grew up in the U.S. at risk of soon being forced out.

Will it be enough to force Republicans to act?
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...ushpmg00000004

eva02 12-17-2017 01:47 PM

Re: If Congress Doesn’t Act Soon To Save Dreamers, It Might Not Save Them At All
 
If a bill passes it has to pass now! Democrats need to use their leverage...
There’s no way democrats and republicans can compromise on a bill for us

JayR9 12-17-2017 02:11 PM

Re: If Congress Doesn’t Act Soon To Save Dreamers, It Might Not Save Them At All
 
Exactly, it's spending bill or nothing. Any bill after that will be loaded with crap that neither side will agree to.

2MoreYears 12-17-2017 02:16 PM

Re: If Congress Doesn’t Act Soon To Save Dreamers, It Might Not Save Them At All
 
I'm not enthusiastic about the odds of anything positive happening this year, same goes for next year. We are basically collateral damage in a fight nobody will win. I want to be proven wrong.

libertarian1776 12-17-2017 02:18 PM

Re: If Congress Doesn’t Act Soon To Save Dreamers, It Might Not Save Them At All
 
if nothing happens, i want us to be the example for this country’s moral failure on this issue.

in the end its their loss for not wanting us here, not ours.

DREAMers will never die, wherever they are in the world they will be successful.

jaylove16 12-17-2017 02:25 PM

Re: If Congress Doesn’t Act Soon To Save Dreamers, It Might Not Save Them At All
 
Something positive is going to happen. You have to be pretty pessimistic to not see that !

2Face 12-17-2017 02:28 PM

Re: If Congress Doesn’t Act Soon To Save Dreamers, It Might Not Save Them At All
 
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Originally Posted by jaylove16 (Post 661004)
Something positive is going to happen. You have to be pretty pessimistic to not see that !

THIS. Dec 22nd is the date. Until that passes I'm not willing to give up hope. There was major consensus amongst all groups that the battle will go down to DEC 22nd eventually and that is happening. We've done justice to DACA and we will get our reward soon.

JayR9 12-17-2017 02:36 PM

Re: If Congress Doesn’t Act Soon To Save Dreamers, It Might Not Save Them At All
 
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Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 661006)
THIS. Dec 22nd is the date. Until that passes I'm not willing to give up hope. There was major consensus amongst all groups that the battle will go down to DEC 22nd eventually and that is happening. We've done justice to DACA and we will get our reward soon.

5 Days Left...I brought a bottle of expensive champagne just in case though.

dtrt09 12-17-2017 02:37 PM

Re: If Congress Doesn’t Act Soon To Save Dreamers, It Might Not Save Them At All
 
Haha...America's Voice has changed its tune; now or never vs let's wait 'till next election. Hacks.

The Senate Dems will have to make it happen by the 22. HuffPost needs to do a piece on progressive groups, including Erika Andiola and her activism.

eva02 12-17-2017 02:56 PM

Re: If Congress Doesn’t Act Soon To Save Dreamers, It Might Not Save Them At All
 
All liberal groups are pissed and promising to withhold key endorsements next year. As they rightfully should I’df democrats bounce us to 2018. Idk wtf democrats were thinking trying to campaign on us only to back out. Imagine leaving dreamers in the dark through the holidays. Democrats are fucking stupid tbh, they just won in Alabama and their still shook that voters will blame them with a complete republicans controlled govt. progressives groups ready to rip their heads off


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