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libertarian1776 01-13-2018 08:14 AM

How DACA Could Outlast Trump.
 
Congress and the White House spent much of this week trying to fix the problem President Donald Trump created in September when he abruptly canceled Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, an Obama-era program that provides renewable two-year deportation protections and work permits to undocumented immigrants who entered the U.S. as youths.

But even if Congress and the White House fail to hash out a deal to protect Dreamers, as the young immigrants are known, DACA could remain in effect through 2020, and possibly into a new administration.

DACA could outlast Trump because Dreamers and their advocates aren’t solely relying on Congress to help them. They’re also fighting Trump’s move in the courts, where they won a key victory Tuesday night: a national injunction blocking Trump from phasing out DACA.

The injunction could make it much harder than the White House thought to make DACA go away. And although U.S. District Judge William Alsup’s ruling doesn’t allow new DACA applications, it lets people who hold the protections keep renewing them past the March 5 deadline set by the Trump administration. If litigation drags on for several months, as it likely will, DACA might remain in effect through 2020, and possibly into a new administration.

The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals or the Supreme Court could invalidate the injunction. But Attorney General Jeff Sessions, who plans to appeal the district court’s decision, will face an uphill battle trying to convince the appeals court that the U.S. government needs to start canceling DACA work authorizations before the courts decide the lawsuits, according to Stephen Legomsky, the former chief counsel for U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services. The program has hummed along for five years without any legal challenge.

“There’s no irreparable harm and there’s no urgency,” Legomsky told HuffPost. “The administration is going to be hard-pressed to come up with a reason to stay the injunction during the long period of time this case will be pending … If Congress does not enact a Dream Act, I think it’s possible that people could renew DACA into the next administration.”

Those cases ― brought by a DACA recipient, and a coalition of 15 Democratic-led states and the District of Columbia ― make many of the same allegations found in the California lawsuit. The Trump administration violated the Administrative Procedure Act by failing to seek public comment or provide enough notice when it canceled DACA, the lawsuits say. And they accuse Trump of acting with the goal of discriminating against Mexicans ― “racial animus,” in legalese ― which would violate DACA recipients’ constitutional right to equal protection before the law.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...ushpmg00000313

#HereToStay

Adrian2145 01-13-2018 08:51 AM

Re: How DACA Could Outlast Trump.
 
It could be like Dapa stalled in the courts during the Obama administration, who knows?

2MoreYears 01-13-2018 10:40 AM

Re: How DACA Could Outlast Trump.
 
Exactly! There's no going back. Reasoning is in our side.

hopeful_in_nyc 01-13-2018 11:14 AM

Re: How DACA Could Outlast Trump.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adrian2145 (Post 669669)
It could be like Dapa stalled in the courts during the Obama administration, who knows?

DAPA didn’t have nearly as much momentum and uproar as DACA.

BeansDreamtoo21 01-13-2018 11:16 AM

Re: How DACA Could Outlast Trump.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hopeful_in_nyc (Post 669684)
DAPA didn’t have nearly as much momentum and uproar as DACA.

I don't think that matters in the supreme court? Or am I wrong

hopeful_in_nyc 01-13-2018 11:19 AM

Re: How DACA Could Outlast Trump.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BeansDreamtoo21 (Post 669685)
I don't think that matters in the supreme court? Or am I wrong

Who knows anymore? The San Fran judge who reinstated DACA used trumps tweets for reasoning, lol.

Sky is the limit 01-13-2018 11:31 AM

Re: How DACA Could Outlast Trump.
 
I think if this allows people to renew it is a good thing. I hope for permanent relief for all dreamers, but I have little faith in Congress or this administration, they screw over people on a daily basis without blinking an eye.

As far as this ruling being struck down in the higher courts, I don't think it will because the injunction ruling was based on causing irreparable harm if allowed to be rescinded before a the case is argued in court (and we all know how long court cases could take). So, I do think the case for irreparable harm is evident for DACA Recipients losing there status. I do however think that eventually the administration might win on its right to terminate DACA, but hopefully that will give more people time to renew while the original case makes its way through the courts, while the injunction is in place.

jwxie518 01-13-2018 11:36 AM

Re: How DACA Could Outlast Trump.
 
This article is a bad letdown. Thrpugh 2020 and even the new administration? Don’t jinx it. I’d punch this author in the head. We do not need to reinstate DACA. Fuck that. Pushing down the can is not in the interest of the DREAMers.

JJ Glo 01-13-2018 11:36 AM

Re: How DACA Could Outlast Trump.
 
USCIS stated that they would be releasing information within days! Get those renewals ready!

dreamer12345 01-13-2018 11:37 AM

Re: How DACA Could Outlast Trump.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 669668)
Congress and the White House spent much of this week trying to fix the problem President Donald Trump created in September when he abruptly canceled Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, an Obama-era program that provides renewable two-year deportation protections and work permits to undocumented immigrants who entered the U.S. as youths.

But even if Congress and the White House fail to hash out a deal to protect Dreamers, as the young immigrants are known, DACA could remain in effect through 2020, and possibly into a new administration.

DACA could outlast Trump because Dreamers and their advocates aren’t solely relying on Congress to help them. They’re also fighting Trump’s move in the courts, where they won a key victory Tuesday night: a national injunction blocking Trump from phasing out DACA.

The injunction could make it much harder than the White House thought to make DACA go away. And although U.S. District Judge William Alsup’s ruling doesn’t allow new DACA applications, it lets people who hold the protections keep renewing them past the March 5 deadline set by the Trump administration. If litigation drags on for several months, as it likely will, DACA might remain in effect through 2020, and possibly into a new administration.

The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals or the Supreme Court could invalidate the injunction. But Attorney General Jeff Sessions, who plans to appeal the district court’s decision, will face an uphill battle trying to convince the appeals court that the U.S. government needs to start canceling DACA work authorizations before the courts decide the lawsuits, according to Stephen Legomsky, the former chief counsel for U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services. The program has hummed along for five years without any legal challenge.

“There’s no irreparable harm and there’s no urgency,” Legomsky told HuffPost. “The administration is going to be hard-pressed to come up with a reason to stay the injunction during the long period of time this case will be pending … If Congress does not enact a Dream Act, I think it’s possible that people could renew DACA into the next administration.”

Those cases ― brought by a DACA recipient, and a coalition of 15 Democratic-led states and the District of Columbia ― make many of the same allegations found in the California lawsuit. The Trump administration violated the Administrative Procedure Act by failing to seek public comment or provide enough notice when it canceled DACA, the lawsuits say. And they accuse Trump of acting with the goal of discriminating against Mexicans ― “racial animus,” in legalese ― which would violate DACA recipients’ constitutional right to equal protection before the law.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...ushpmg00000313

#HereToStay

They used the same procedural argument that was used to stop DAPA. The irony is beautiful and I remember saying they could do it now that there was precedent


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