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Copper 01-24-2018 02:37 PM
Schumer on DACA talks: We’re Starting Over
 
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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said Wednesday talks on immigration and border security as "starting over" after he and the White House have exchanged a series of blows about President Donald Trump's border wall.

But even as the New York Democrat described a reset in talks, Senate Majority Whip John Cornyn told reporters that he'd propose something similar to what Schumer was talking about moving on from.

”We're starting over," Schumer told CNN on Wednesday when asked about the latest on the standoff over the Congress' plans for addressing the expiring Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals policy. "I took our thing off --- they took their thing off the table, I took our thing, we're starting over."

Schumer was referring to an offer he made Trump last week to authorize upward of $20 billion for his border wall, a signature campaign pledge for the President, in exchange for protecting recipients of DACA, young undocumented immigrants who came to the US as children. Trump decided last fall to end the program by March 5, 2018, and Congress has since failed to reach agreement with the White House about how to extend it.

But the White House rejected Schumer's offer and after the government reopened from a weekend shutdown, Schumer rescinded the offer. That prompted Trump to jab back Tuesday night.

"Cryin' Chuck Schumer fully understands, especially after his humiliating defeat, that if there is no Wall, there is no DACA. We must have safety and security, together with a strong Military, for our great people!" Trump tweeted.

A cheery Schumer nonetheless told CNN on Wednesday that work would continue, and as he entered an elevator with Sen. Lamar Alexander, he coaxed a fist-bump from the Tennessee Republican who has been working with a bipartisan group of senators to find common ground on immigration and other issues.

"We're trying to make (Congress) function," Schumer said, indicating Alexander, ignoring a question about whether he would meet with Alexander's group.

Cornyn proposes 'permanent for permanent' framework


Earlier Wednesday, however, Cornyn told reporters that he would support a trade of border security for a DACA-type solution, putting him at potential odds with the White House.

The Texas Republican called his offer "temporary for temporary, permanent for permanent." In essence, he said, if lawmakers want a "permanent" solution on DACA -- a pathway to citizenship for the eligible immigrants -- then they need to be prepared to pony up for a "permanent" border fix. And the inverse is also true.

"If you want an annual appropriation, then I think you'll get a one-year extension of the DACA status," Cornyn said. "If you want a permanent solution for the DACA recipients, you're going to need a permanent solution -- which means a plan and funding, something on the order of what Sen. Schumer initially offered, $25 billion, to the President last Friday, which he has now rescinded."

Cornyn said funding in that range, which would cover 10 years, would need to be put together all up front, and likely put into a trust fund that can then be used flexibly by the Department of Homeland Security for what they need -- infrastructure and wall, technology or personnel.

"I'd leave it to the experts to say what works best at any given location," Cornyn said, adding later, "Different places will have different requirements, so I'd leave it flexible for the Department of Homeland Security."

He said unlike a DHS proposal that was recently sent to the Hill and unlike a bipartisan proposal Trump rejected, Cornyn would not accept appropriating funds year-by-year.


"I disagree with that approach," Cornyn said.

But Cornyn acknowledged his framework may not speak for everyone, including the White House, which has pushed for a DACA deal to include sweeping changes to the immigration system like slashing family-based and diversity visas and more aggressive enforcement authorities.


"Not everybody sees it the same way," Cornyn said.

Cornyn said senators have agreed to negotiate further and clear ideas through himself on the Republican side and Senate No. 2 Democrat Dick Durbin on the other.
http://www.kxlf.com/story/37340741/d...r-schumer-says

BestBefore1984 01-24-2018 02:46 PM
Re: Schumer on DACA talks: We’re Starting Over
 
Last time I started over with an ex gf, it only lasted a week before I had to block her on MySpace.

Smooth 01-24-2018 02:48 PM
Re: Schumer on DACA talks: We’re Starting Over
 
Little by little. Let's hope talks continue to go well. No finger pointing or shit talking. Let's get it done.

Smooth 01-24-2018 02:49 PM
Re: Schumer on DACA talks: We’re Starting Over
 
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Originally Posted by BestBefore1984 (Post 680233)
Last time I started over with an ex gf, it only lasted a week before I had to block her on MySpace.
This is important than ass and tits bro. This is different. Schumer has to start over because the Durbin and Graham proposal is dead. If you want to break through the stalemate, you start over.

Busybee 01-24-2018 02:50 PM
Re: Schumer on DACA talks: We’re Starting Over
 
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Originally Posted by BestBefore1984 (Post 680233)
Last time I started over with an ex gf, it only lasted a week before I had to block her on MySpace.
Myspace, lol this never ending negotiations...... they only agree to agree but then, it goes nowhere.

dtrt09 01-24-2018 02:53 PM
Re: Schumer on DACA talks: We’re Starting Over
 
Cornyn is a fraud. He wants billions, but he is asking that they not be 'appropriated' and simpky ge used as a loan to DHS to use as it pleases.

That will be used for deportation and private prisons. On top, it opens the door to mismanagement, abuse, and fraud.

Busybee 01-24-2018 02:54 PM
Re: Schumer on DACA talks: We’re Starting Over
 
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Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 680238)
This is important than ass and tits bro. This is different. Schumer has to start over because the Durbin and Graham proposal is dead. If you want to break through the stalemate, you start over.
I truly hope the GOP and the WH come to their senses and realize that asking so many concessions in exchange for just legalizing DACAers is not gonna work. Democrats will not agree to overhaul the entire immigration system just for us. It has to be addressed by pieces, maybe the wall and border security while putting us on a 10 year path to citizenship would sound more fair. I don't know why is it so hard to agree on that, if they really wanted to help us, they would have done it by now. Something tells me they want to keep using us for political purposes.

Afridi786 01-24-2018 02:56 PM
Re: Schumer on DACA talks: We’re Starting Over
 
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Originally Posted by dtrt09 (Post 680240)
Cornyn is a fraud. He wants billions, but he is asking that they not be 'appropriated' and simpky ge used as a loan to DHS to use as it pleases.

That will be used for deportation and private prisons. On top, it opens the door to mismanagement, abuse, and fraud.
Don't think that's true. Probably want to appropriate it all up front for specific uses and then use it as they go versus getting appropriations every year for the same thing which may stop if Dems get control.

iconde009 01-24-2018 02:58 PM
Re: Schumer on DACA talks: We’re Starting Over
 
"If you want an annual appropriation, then I think you'll get a one-year extension of the DACA status," Cornyn said. "If you want a permanent solution for the DACA recipients, you're going to need a permanent solution -- which means a plan and funding, something on the order of what Sen. Schumer initially offered, $25 billion, to the President last Friday, which he has now rescinded."

He make a good point. I think that's the best best trade off, win-win on both sides.

Smooth 01-24-2018 02:58 PM
Re: Schumer on DACA talks: We’re Starting Over
 
I will say this in the nicest way possible: if any of you want anything done, there will unfortunately need to be major concessions. Democrats nor Dreamers aren't really in a SUPER position of power to be implementing imaginary barriers or limitations on what is acceptable and what isn't.

Instead of feeling hopeless and depressed on this forum, pick up your phone and call or go on twitter and tweet these leaders and pressure for a fair compromise that won't endanger others so much.

Now, if concessions are not your thing, I respect that too. If we get nothing, then we get nothing and we move on and make other plans.

But, these are the two options you are looking at. When Feb. 8th comes around, my two cents many if not all of you will feel the desperate need to get anything passed, so we can finally escape this shit hole and live in peace.

Think about it. Feeling hopeless on here won't do any of us any good. Discuss ideas and from there call or tweet. Pressure but don't waste time in making analytical predictions of doom. PRESSURE from now until the 8th. If nothing happens then, then we start making plans: you either wait it out or start looking at other countries. PLEASE PRESSURE.


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