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JavierHTx 01-29-2018 10:18 PM

Black Activists are not with us
 
https://twitter.com/tariqnasheed/sta...14586991939585

After Camila Cabello’s speech on Dreamers on the Grammys stage a well known black activist on Twitter called her out with this speech “I’m no. This country was NOT “built” by Dreamers. It was built by the free labor of Black Americans who are still disrespected by white supremacists and immigrant groups who often exhibit the same anti-Black hatred. So chill with the alternate history”. His tweet has gotten over 20 thousand retweets from mostly black users.

This country was indeed found by young immigrants. Idk why people black people want to make this the a game of who can be oppressed the most.

Pianoswithoutfaith 01-30-2018 11:50 AM

Re: Black Activists are not with us
 
Saying this country was built by dreamers completely dismisses what black peoplr went through or any other people who were oppressed like native Americans

Now some Native American activist will say

"No this country wasn't built on the back of black slaves, it was built on the suffering of million of my people"

cmartinez 01-30-2018 12:01 PM

Re: Black Activists are not with us
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JavierHTx (Post 683529)
https://twitter.com/tariqnasheed/sta...14586991939585

After Camila Cabello’s speech on Dreamers on the Grammys stage a well known black activist on Twitter called her out with this speech “I’m no. This country was NOT “built” by Dreamers. It was built by the free labor of Black Americans who are still disrespected by white supremacists and immigrant groups who often exhibit the same anti-Black hatred. So chill with the alternate history”. His tweet has gotten over 20 thousand retweets from mostly black users.

This country was indeed found by young immigrants. Idk why people black people want to make this the a game of who can be oppressed the most.

I did not hear Cabello's speech. Assuming she in fact said that Dreamers built this country, she is not correct. But, at the same time, who cares? Can ANYONE actually successfully tell me who built this country? No, because the answer is messy and has multiple valid answers that are all somewhat true.

As for Tariq's response...he isn't a prominent black acitivist. He is a fringe pan Africanist that is problematic. He doesn't represent mainline black activism, and we shouldn't say that "black activists are not with us" because of the comments of a fringe person.

MIdreamer 01-30-2018 12:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmartinez (Post 683685)
I did not hear Cabello's speech. Assuming she in fact said that Dreamers built this country, she is not correct. But, at the same time, who cares? Can ANYONE actually successfully tell me who build this country? No, because the answer is messy and has multiple valid answers that are all somewhat true.

As for Tariq's response...he isn't a prominent black acitivist. He is a fringe pan Africanist that is problematic. He doesn't represent mainline black activism, and we shouldn't say that "black activists are not with us" because of the comments of a fringe person.

This^

Copper 01-30-2018 12:14 PM

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They probably took her comment out of context. I think what she meant by “this country was built on dreamers “ was that it was built by immigrants who had the taste for the American Dream and were able to fulfill that and in the process they helped build this country of what it is now. At least that’s how I took it. People have to remember that before us the “Dreamers”, there was the people that were the original “Dreamers”. The people that were looking for the “American Dream” that migrated here before us.

Also this doesn’t surprise me coming from them. Not to try to start a race war, but a lot of the African Community also gave Chamillionaire a hard time for helping out a Mexican family who’s dad was being deported after being in the country for many years. According to them black people should only be helping black people...

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5...b06e25326700cf

johnfreyan 01-30-2018 12:26 PM

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For fuck's sake, it's Tariq Nasheed.

He's such an *esteemed* activist, becoming famous for writing such insightful books as "The Art of Mackin' ", "The Art of Gold Digging", and "The Elite Way: 10 Rules Men Must Know in Order to Deal With Women".

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/10...g?v=1481523400

bad.bunny 01-30-2018 12:35 PM

Re: Black Activists are not with us
 
I do not understand. Many Dreamers are of African descent especially if they're from the following countries: Jamaica, Dominican Republic, Venezuela, the coast of Colombia, Panama, the coast of Honduras, Veracruz in Mexico, Haiti, Brazil, Trinidad & Tobago, etc.

OP, the man sounds like an African AMERICAN supremacist who is going against his people as well.

bad.bunny 01-30-2018 12:36 PM

Re: Black Activists are not with us
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 683682)
Saying this country was built by dreamers completely dismisses what black peoplr went through or any other people who were oppressed like native Americans

Now some Native American activist will say

"No this country wasn't built on the back of black slaves, it was built on the suffering of million of my people"

But Native Americans did build civilizations ranging from Canada to Argentina & even some Caribbean countries until they were eradicated by viscious conquistadors.

They're the true backbone of the Americas.

Sorrybrah 01-30-2018 01:08 PM

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Lol and now black people in the ghettos are ruining it.

Got_Daca 01-30-2018 02:30 PM

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End DV lottery now


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