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jaylove16 02-21-2018 09:08 AM

Spotlight on House After Senate Failure to Pass DACA Fix
 
Futile effort’
Leadership has signaled it will continue whipping support for the Goodlatte-McCaul bill and the authors are exploring further changes to win over holdouts, but some members are questioning the point of that effort.

“I don’t think there’s a chance to pass a Republican-only immigration bill out of the House,” said Rep. Charlie Dent, co-chairman of the moderate Tuesday Group.

The Pennsylvania Republican also said there was a “less than zero percent chance” a partisan GOP measure could pass the Senate.

The only reason for the House to pass a partisan bill is to provide political cover for members who will vote against any final bipartisan compromise, Dent said. “And that really pisses me off.”

The Goodlatte-McCaul bill is not a “viable vehicle to get us to the finish line,” Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart said, suggesting it would be better for the House to move onto something that is.

“To spend time on something that’s a futile effort when we have very little time, to me, doesn’t sound like a good effort,” the Florida Republican said.


Among the many issues Diaz-Balart has with the Goodlatte-McCaul is that it is much more expansive than the four pillars Trump has said must be addressed.

The bill would authorize the Department of Justice to withhold grants from sanctuary cities, require employers to use the E-Verify program to check employees’ immigration status and create an agricultural guest worker program.

Many lawmakers have raised concerns about the guest worker program, saying it could take away jobs from U.S. workers.

“Potato growers are opposed to it. Dairy industries are opposed to it,” Rep. Mike Simpson said of concerns he’s hearing from Idaho constituents.

https://www.rollcall.com/news/politi...senate-failure

FLDreamerrr 02-21-2018 09:38 AM

Re: Spotlight on House After Senate Failure to Pass DACA Fix
 
If nothing could pass senate nothing will pass the house

Swim19 02-21-2018 09:43 AM

Re: Spotlight on House After Senate Failure to Pass DACA Fix
 
The votes are there if Ryan allows a bipartisan bill to be brought up (based on all democrats voting + those GOP who have already cosponsored DREAM Act like legislation). The votes aren't there for Goodlatte type bill.

FLDreamerrr 02-21-2018 09:46 AM

Re: Spotlight on House After Senate Failure to Pass DACA Fix
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 693129)
The votes are there if Ryan allows a bipartisan bill to be brought up (based on all democrats voting + those GOP who have already cosponsored DREAM Act like legislation). The votes aren't there for Goodlatte type bill.

There was multiple choices for bipartisan bills in the senate and none passed
So even if somehow it passed the House it won’t pass the senate

Swim19 02-21-2018 09:51 AM

Re: Spotlight on House After Senate Failure to Pass DACA Fix
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FLDreamerrr (Post 693132)
There was multiple choices for bipartisan bills in the senate and none passed
So even if somehow it passed the House it won’t pass the senate

It would put pressure again on the Senate if it passed the House. I agree it's unlikely (not because the votes aren't there but because of Speaker Ryan). There's a lot of talk from Senators that the order of the vote of the bills was the reason none of them passed. They are saying if the 'Common Sense' plan (led by Collins) was voted last it would have passed. I don't know if there's any truth to that or if it's just another excuse for why Senators voted against it.

ceaguila 02-21-2018 10:21 AM

Re: Spotlight on House After Senate Failure to Pass DACA Fix
 
Republican Rep Mike Coffman tells reporters in CO he will revive his discharge petition to force a House vote on the DREAM Act should there be no solutions by March 5. #copolitics @nickriccardi

BeansDreamtoo21 02-21-2018 10:36 AM

Re: Spotlight on House After Senate Failure to Pass DACA Fix
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ceaguila (Post 693142)
Republican Rep Mike Coffman tells reporters in CO he will revive his discharge petition to force a House vote on the DREAM Act should there be no solutions by March 5. #copolitics @nickriccardi

How does that work

Seding 02-21-2018 10:55 AM

Re: Spotlight on House After Senate Failure to Pass DACA Fix
 
Let's be realistic guys... Nothing is happening at this point.

Due to the recent court decisions, Congress no longer has the pressure to deliver by March 5th... And this Congress can't get anything done without a hard deadline. It's like asking a bunch of 2 year olds to get their act together :-(

There was an opportunity to pass a bipartisan bill in the Senate, but Trump and his right wing racist xenophobic hardliners torpedoed that deaal. They tried to use us to completely change our immigration system (even legal immigration). He was clearly negotiating in bad faith and the Democrats were not going to swallow that one.

This is such a contentious issue, I have come to the conclusion that you can only truly solve this issue with the same party in control of the White House and filibuster proof majorities in the Senate & the House.

BeansDreamtoo21 02-21-2018 10:59 AM

Re: Spotlight on House After Senate Failure to Pass DACA Fix
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seding (Post 693148)
Let's be realistic guys... Nothing is happening at this point.

Due to the recent court decisions, Congress no longer has the pressure to deliver by March 5th... And this Congress can't get anything done without a hard deadline. It's like asking a bunch of 2 year olds to get their act together :-(

There was an opportunity to pass a bipartisan bill in the Senate, but Trump and his right wing racist xenophobic hardliners torpedoed that deaal. They tried to use us to completely change our immigration system (even legal immigration). He was clearly negotiating in bad faith and the Democrats were not going to swallow that one.

This is such a contentious issue, I have come to the conclusion that you can only truly solve this issue with the same party in control of the White House and filibuster proof majorities in the Senate & the House.

Chill man give up after march not before.

dreamer__13 02-21-2018 11:15 AM

Re: Spotlight on House After Senate Failure to Pass DACA Fix
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seding (Post 693148)
Let's be realistic guys... Nothing is happening at this point.

Due to the recent court decisions, Congress no longer has the pressure to deliver by March 5th... And this Congress can't get anything done without a hard deadline. It's like asking a bunch of 2 year olds to get their act together :-(

There was an opportunity to pass a bipartisan bill in the Senate, but Trump and his right wing racist xenophobic hardliners torpedoed that deaal. They tried to use us to completely change our immigration system (even legal immigration). He was clearly negotiating in bad faith and the Democrats were not going to swallow that one.

This is such a contentious issue, I have come to the conclusion that you can only truly solve this issue with the same party in control of the White House and filibuster proof majorities in the Senate & the House.

Then pack your shit and GTFO now. Stop wasting precious packing time on this forum.


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