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DogJuiceMan 07-26-2018 11:20 PM

H-1B visa denials rise after Trump ‘hire American’ order: report
 
I'm not sure if this goes here but here it is.




President Donald Trump’s “Buy American and Hire American” executive order last year appears to have led federal immigration officials to deny more requests for the controversial H-1B visa, according to a new report.

The H-1B, intended for highly skilled foreign workers and heavily used by Silicon Valley’s technology industry, has become a flashpoint in the debate over immigration, with critics pointing to reported abuses and claiming holders of the visa take jobs from Americans.



Now, the non-profit research institute National Foundation for American Policy is reporting that denial rates for the H-1B shot up significantly toward the end of last year. And this year, officials were continuing to nix applications for skills-based visas at a high rate, the institute reported. It said the upswing in denials was “likely due to new Trump administration policies.”

The H-1B denial rate jumped to 22 percent in the last quarter of the last fiscal year, from 16 percent in the third quarter, a 41 percent increase, according to the institute, which said its findings were based on data from U.S. Citizenship and Immigration. The institute also said its conclusion that denial rates for skills-based visas were high so far this year was based on interviews with lawyers and companies, plus other data.

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Denials of H-1B applications started to rise soon after President Donald Trump issued the “Buy American and Hire American” executive order in April 2017, the institute said.

Data suggest H-1B denials rose as Trump administration political appointees began guiding the decisions of visa adjudicators at U.S. Citizenship and Immigration, according to the institute.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/07/...-order-report/

carnivore 07-27-2018 12:00 AM

Re: H-1B visa denials rise after Trump ‘hire American’ order: report
 
My gf is here on a student visa what's gonna happen to her

UnknownUser 07-27-2018 04:10 AM

Re: H-1B visa denials rise after Trump ‘hire American’ order: report
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carnivore (Post 714899)
My gf is here on a student visa what's gonna happen to her

You and her are getting deported.

MDxOD 07-27-2018 12:39 PM

Re: H-1B visa denials rise after Trump ‘hire American’ order: report
 
This is quite silly. This is exactly why we're so behind in every category in the world. Only like 40-45% of americans have degrees, most of them already have jobs. What are you going to hire your neighborhood homeless bum to do a job that requires way more credentials than what the average american has?
H1B = Genius visa.

Make America rank 20 in STEM Again.

DogJuiceMan 07-27-2018 04:42 PM

Re: H-1B visa denials rise after Trump ‘hire American’ order: report
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MDxOD (Post 714958)
This is quite silly. This is exactly why we're so behind in every category in the world. Only like 40-45% of americans have degrees, most of them already have jobs. What are you going to hire your neighborhood homeless bum to do a job that requires way more credentials than what the average american has?
H1B = Genius visa.

Make America rank 20 in STEM Again.

I've seen opinions on both sides of the isles, that americans cant get jobs cause H1bs take them all due to job posting trickery.

And also that we need these visas to steal talent from the rest of the world.

I would love to hear you make your case with credible sources.

lonelydreamer 07-27-2018 04:52 PM

Re: H-1B visa denials rise after Trump ‘hire American’ order: report
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DogJuiceMan (Post 715015)
I've seen opinions on both sides of the isles, that americans cant get jobs cause H1bs take them all due to job posting trickery.

And also that we need these visas to steal talent from the rest of the world.

I would love to hear you make your case with credible sources.

do you still think people are not getting jobs because of H1 or DACA or any other immigrant in such a full employment economy? if someone is not getting job now there is a serious problem with their education or skill set. there tons of studies to show that high skilled or even less skilled immigrants are a net positive to economy. dont sing the chorus of eugenics.

isk84life 07-27-2018 05:22 PM

Re: H-1B visa denials rise after Trump ‘hire American’ order: report
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DogJuiceMan (Post 715015)
I've seen opinions on both sides of the isles, that americans cant get jobs cause H1bs take them all due to job posting trickery.

And also that we need these visas to steal talent from the rest of the world.

I would love to hear you make your case with credible sources.


Many Americans are used to getting what they want without putting in any effort. We get a ton of applications from people with High School or Community College educations trying to "break into tech" lmfao.

Now hypothetically speaking.
1.- Do we as a country want to have more qualified people than available jobs?
2.- Or de we want to have more available jobs than qualified people?

One option leads to recessions. You pick.

DogJuiceMan 07-27-2018 08:24 PM

Re: H-1B visa denials rise after Trump ‘hire American’ order: report
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lonelydreamer (Post 715018)
do you still think people are not getting jobs because of H1 or DACA or any other immigrant in such a full employment economy? if someone is not getting job now there is a serious problem with their education or skill set. there tons of studies to show that high skilled or even less skilled immigrants are a net positive to economy. dont sing the chorus of eugenics.

Eugenics???? Nobody is saying eugenics here. We are not killing one group just cause they arent getting H1Bs, the situation is not that dire otherwise they'd qualify for TPS.

I only stated what I had heard.

The arguments they throw out is that native born people shouldn't have to compete against US immigrants.

Quote:

Originally Posted by isk84life (Post 715021)
Many Americans are used to getting what they want without putting in any effort. We get a ton of applications from people with High School or Community College educations trying to "break into tech" lmfao.

Now hypothetically speaking.
1.- Do we as a country want to have more qualified people than available jobs?
2.- Or de we want to have more available jobs than qualified people?

One option leads to recessions. You pick.

Yea I've seen a lot of native born people trying to use community college to break into tech and it doesnt work so well.

Hmmmmmm

Option number 2? I'd rather have more jobs than qualified because that means we need more people, and can thus train more people to get those jobs.

MDxOD 07-27-2018 10:27 PM

Re: H-1B visa denials rise after Trump ‘hire American’ order: report
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DogJuiceMan (Post 715015)
I've seen opinions on both sides of the isles, that americans cant get jobs cause H1bs take them all due to job posting trickery.

And also that we need these visas to steal talent from the rest of the world.

I would love to hear you make your case with credible sources.

People overestimate the average american skill. You think most people out there are skilled? H1b = the top people from their respective nations, i.e. they give the top americans a run for their money. The only disadvantage they have is not being "american".

Its not that americans cant get jobs because of H1b, its that there arent enough americans that have the potentials of H1b. How can you have job posting trickery? Must be some shady company then.

People here are just mad that those from 3rd world countries that went to school in ripped sandals are better, smarter and have potential than someone here who was given all the best opportunities.

Also, we arent stealing shit. People would flock here if it wasnt for the convoluted system in place.

versailles 07-28-2018 09:59 PM

Re: H-1B visa denials rise after Trump ‘hire American’ order: report
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MDxOD (Post 715052)
People overestimate the average american skill. You think most people out there are skilled? H1b = the top people from their respective nations, i.e. they give the top americans a run for their money. The only disadvantage they have is not being "american".

Its not that americans cant get jobs because of H1b, its that there arent enough americans that have the potentials of H1b. How can you have job posting trickery? Must be some shady company then.

People here are just mad that those from 3rd world countries that went to school in ripped sandals are better, smarter and have potential than someone here who was given all the best opportunities.

Also, we arent stealing shit. People would flock here if it wasnt for the convoluted system in place.

ahahahahah, you know very little about the great scam that is H1B.


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