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ECW 01-08-2019 03:55 PM

Why a DACA deal to end the shutdown is unlikely
 
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Here’s why it’s unlikely:

•Trump thinks time, and the Supreme Court, are on his side. The White House believes the court will ultimately invalidate the Obama-era DACA program or side with Trump’s attempt to end it, which has been blocked by lower courts. When that happens, the administration believes, Trump will have more leverage to cut a better deal with Democrats desperate to keep sympathetic young DACA recipients from being deported, and Congress will be forced to deal with a dilemma it has long avoided.

•Democrats don’t trust Trump, who has walked away from a number of DACA proposals in the past year. “Donald Trump is not a deal-maker, he’s a deal-breaker,” said Rep. Ruben Gallego, D-Ariz. “We’ve seen this happen numerous times, and we’re not going to come approach him with a deal that he’s only going to take and then reject and then come back and move the goal posts on.”

•Pelosi is in touch with her base, and her base isn’t eager to broach that deal. “People don’t want to trade a wall for something that isn’t even real,” said Rep. Pramila Jayapal, D-Wash., co-chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus. “People don’t want a wall, period, and I think there’s no trust that there’s any credible negotiation around something positive on immigration, given (Trump’s) history.”

•Trump wants much more on immigration than just physical border security, where there are some areas of potential compromise. A presentation that Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen prepared for congressional leaders last week included calls not just for the wall, but the rollback of a bipartisan bill designed to protect human trafficking victims and a court-ordered settlement intended to safeguard immigrant children. Both of those are nonstarters with Democrats, who say the protections are needed and getting rid of them does not promote border security.

•Republicans question whether Democrats are as motivated as they say they are to resolve the DACA issue. They’re skeptical Democrats want to take the political leverage off the table. Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart of Florida, a moderate Republican who has long worked on immigration reform, called the potential to get a deal out of the shutdown fight the “opportunity of a lifetime.”

“It requires the Democratic leadership to actually do something that they have not done in the past,” Diaz-Balart said, “which is match their rhetoric on DACA with actual action.”
https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics...y-13517915.php

Smooth 01-08-2019 03:57 PM

Re: Why a DACA deal to end the shutdown is unlikely
 
Does look rough. But, we only hope something happens.

carnivore 01-08-2019 03:58 PM

Re: Why a DACA deal to end the shutdown is unlikely
 
So tired of this rollercoaster. I just wanna get off.

vft1008 01-08-2019 04:16 PM

Re: Why a DACA deal to end the shutdown is unlikely
 
Dems may hold the line and force Trump to use emergency powers, which may fail and that might screw us over.

Wonder what he will say on TV this evening?

Outsider626 01-08-2019 04:17 PM

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jwxie518 01-08-2019 04:19 PM

Re: Why a DACA deal to end the shutdown is unlikely
 
Fuck the liberals.

jaylove16 01-08-2019 04:38 PM

Re: Why a DACA deal to end the shutdown is unlikely
 
No fuck republicans and conservatives who are not really interested in solving this problem. McConnell could step up and tell his conference to negotiate a deal with veto proof majority to end the shutdown. This completely takes trump
Out of the picture and makes him useless. With Democrats in charge of the house this is definitely possible to do, but he has no balls and needs Trumps blessing for everything that goes on in the senate. You’re torched in the head if you’re blaming liberals or democrats for our situation.

BestBefore1984 01-08-2019 04:39 PM

Re: Why a DACA deal to end the shutdown is unlikely
 
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Originally Posted by carnivore (Post 726357)
So tired of this rollercoaster. I just wanna get off.

Yeah man. That's why I like to get off in the bathrooms at Paramounts Great America before I get on the roller coasters.

Hallowpoint1911 01-08-2019 04:43 PM

Re: Why a DACA deal to end the shutdown is unlikely
 
Honestly, I never get my hopes up. We all should know better by now.

DogJuiceMan 01-08-2019 04:47 PM

Re: Why a DACA deal to end the shutdown is unlikely
 
Yea I hear you. This news doesn't even excite me as much as it used to.

I miss those days, you'd hear about daca and youd be like :D here we go! :D.
I have been hurt so many times I am now numb.


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