Originally Posted by Jelly Bean Lover

The best example of this problem is that I continually hear people saying from the right that Obama only wants his "amnesty" plan to get as many illegal voters for 2012 as he can get. They say this all the time on the right, despite that the soonest anyone would become a citizen is 11-15 years. I was listening to a local radio station in CA the other day, and they had a guy from the UFW on there talking about AgJobs. One of the callers called in and said it was all about getting Obama voters for 2012, and even the ignorant talk show host accepted that till the UFW guy pointed out it would be 15 years before citizenship. Then the haters couldn't say anything cause they were wrong. If we did that on a mass basis, maybe we could claim public support at the expense of the right, at which point the politicians will have to listen.