Originally Posted by theboys2010

Just stop now with this kind of rhetoric. Revolution , racist if you want this cause to be set back by decades continue with BS. Grab guns are you kidding. Like my last post on here revolution means war so now you have illegals wanting war do you know how fast that revolution would be finished hours. Do you know what the words mean to people against your cause or who are on the fence in this country by you calling them out and this is why we are here now. I have served this country for two tours and four years total and the words you are using inflames everyone.Your words says you are going to take my country from me talk about saying the exact wrong things your doing it. But its always amazing to see people that have never seen war calling for a revolution and bloodshed.I guarantee you if you saw what your asking to see you would never use the words again, Bloodshed really? Using words like Racist does nothing more than kill your cause do you really know what racism is? Believe me when I tell you guarding Christian communities in Baghdad Iraq is the description of Racism. Christians are dogs to everyone else in the country the courts , the police. the leaders and all the people in country think its there job to kill you. Do you see anyone getting killed in cold blood over there skin color and if you do , do you see the person that killed them getting let go for free. do you see the police not showing up because it does not make a shit because again if your a christian you are a dog. So until you know the meanings of your words because in this deal Words mean everything. I would refrain from saying them. Look at the damage that words have done to this cause, look what marching with another country's flag have done to this cause. Then think of were it has got you which is with no future which is were we are at with Dreamers right now as it stands. Try doing the exact opposite of what has pissed this country off so bad then we might get some thing to build on. But right now people like me that support the cause will not do so if this gets down to people calling one another racist and calling for bloodshed. Because its a lost cause.

Originally Posted by Thecure

Ochoa makes a great argument for revolution but only hints at how to make it happen. IMO anarchy sounds too good to be true and all types of utopias usually end up disastrous. The only way a revolution would happen is at the end of a gun and with the lazy disposition of a huge lot, it would take something huge to arm millions of legal and illegals. Bloodshed it is. But when? Le sigh.