DREAM Act Portal Forum - View Single Post - Did immigration law cost Arizona a seat in Congress?

Invictus · 01-06-2011, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by theboys2010

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Originally Posted by Invictus

I think you are wrong here, buddy.

Looking only at the costs illegal immigrants impose is a highly selective and ultimately biased analysis of the impact of these immigrants.

What about their benefits? The savings they pass down to their employers and ultimately the consumers? The stimulus their labor provide to the economy? The stimulus their spending provides to the economy? The taxes they pay? The higher taxes their employers pay as a result of an increase in revenue?

Why aren't these facets being considered?

The stimulus goes to Mexico in the Amount last year of 24 billion dollars it is the second largest money maker of Mexico even surpassing Pemex, You put that stimulus back into the country we might be able to discuss different issue on this but nothing out weigh what the state of Arizona is paying out to have illegals there or they would not be willing to spend all the tax dollars taking this to the supreme court. Here in Texas were we have better system than anyone on immigration are looking at these Arizona laws so that we can get health care stopped of illegals coming into texas having a baby and leaving. were looking into cutting the education and all ESL classes. were looking into getting rid of the cost of paying for illegals to be in prison at a cost of 30 thousand a year a piece and nearly 40 percent of our state penitentiary is Hispanic or illegal. In texas we are the most friendly immigrant state of them all but with a forecast that we are going to get an additional 25 million residents in the next 10 years from illegals coming from Arizona to Tx to people coming over the border illegal we are screwed. Everyone homeowner taxes have nearly doubled in the past 4 years because we are paying for these cost. Its not fair that people have to work harder to pay more and take it away from there own family so someone can be here illegally not paying full taxes like everyone else. If we knew they were all going to be legalized in near future than it would not be a problem but as it stands now that is not happening for a long time. So I would do my research before you start talking about the stimulus part in a recession and 40 million americans out of work and stick to the ethical part that is correct.

You're portraying immigrant costs, and complaining about it. Let me ask you again, what about their benefits?

Illegals pay 9 billion dollars a year to social security. What do you feel about that?

Add on federal and state taxes, sales tax, property tax, in some cases even income and payroll taxes. Between 96 and 2003, IRS collected 50 billion dollars in taxes from illegals. Here's the article.

Is that a burden?

Studies show that on average, immigrants contribute $80,000 more to social services than they consume per capita. Check it out!

You may complain about all the Hispanics in your prison, but look at the studies comparing the incarceration rates of US citizens vs foreign born minorities. Almost universally, US citizens are more likely to commit crimes. Check out the study here.

The fact that immigrants are more law abiding than Americans is a problem?

Don't buy the bullshit. Immigrants make this country great.

The real problem is with the culture that pushes American-born Hispanics into poverty and crime. Immigrants who don't have this culture do great.