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Originally Posted by Strategy
If Arizona wanted to save money on incarcerating undocumented immigrants, maybe the legislators shouldn't have passed such a draconian law. To the extent undocumented immigrants pay sales and property tax (taxes that subsidize educational costs), they are paying to educate their children. Also, studies have shown that undocumented immigrant's use of health care is de minimis, which can be intuited given the dangers of exposing one's status. Finally, even the most politically conservative learned economists agree that all immigration is financially beneficial to the host country. But putting all science and statistics aside, if you have ever worked with or served along side immigrants, you know in your heart that their contributions are virtually unparalleled.
For a minute, you had me thinking that you actually believed the anti rhetoric.
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Dont ever believe what anyone tells you find out for yourself. But some of your points are skewed/ Republicans represent big corporations they do not represent the people who gained from illegal immigration? Large muliti national companies who want cheap labor so they make more profit and dont have to worry about paying for then normal benefits. Is why politics is in play here. If you think paying sales tax cover the medical and education let me send you my home tax bill this year of 6,000 dollars on mere 2200 square foot home when I bought it with a VA loan my taxes was 2800 dollars in 2004. Texas home taxes goes directly to education and people with no insurance that use Parkland hospital for instance in my county that cost us over 1 billion dollars last year for just having 8000 illegal babies the most in the country. So when my wife had our child that I pay higher and higher insurance cost every year she had to stay two extra days from complication which is not approved by almost all medical insurance anymore you know babies have to be born and mom out of the hospital in three days. Because of this my bill for the extra days was $6,200 dollars. Now you tell me what is fair about that when somebody without citizenship can go and stay in parkland for as long as they want to have there child here for free. When I have to not only pay the exorbant taxes for that , I have to pay the high insurance premium, then pay the extra $6200 or lets say pay it out because middle class people like myself $6200 dollars is a lot of money when you add on mortgage ,gas, electric, mortgage insurance, over and over. Again tell me about the stimulus were all getting. And once you do legalize everyone you no the very first thing there going to do is get more illegals to take there place because they dont want to pay you more now because they can pay an illegal half that.
This is why the country wants all the protection of E=verify, no chain migration, no birth right citizenship, etc passed because they don't want to be in this situation ever again. So on a moral clause yes we should do this but there is no economic stimulus to this its just a play on numbers. Again my education is in political science and Economics so I could so more in debt about it if you need be but believe me there is absolutely no stimulus for citizenship just look again at the 24 billion dollars Mexico gets from remittance every year there second largest income stream of there nation. Taking 24 billion out of the American economy is a flat loser to the idea of stimuli that means we are paying for another country to survive and having to pay for all the services used as well. That is why Dreamers need to understand why American must have E=verify. no chain migration. all these specific parts passed to pass dream act because they cannot let this happen again. giving 12 million citizenship is extraordinarily gracious no other country in the world would do this none of them would dare take on this task r u kidding Mexico would never do this they treat there own migrants like dogs and the people passing through there country from Central America.