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Originally Posted by AL
My point with the Irish, Polish, and Germans was to show that immigration has always been "burning" this country, that's why they call it the melting pot. Look there has already been a case in the Supreme court that has ruled your "jurisdiction" argument void. Research "United States v. Wong Kim Ark". Remember this was at the time when Chinese immigrants were excluded from citizenship. So that argument won't go anywhere including in a highly conservative court. So the whole issue is just a throwing wood to the fire of their racist base. The 14th amendment has survived many waves of immigrants and would continued to do so, since it took an entire war for its ratification.
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Have you read or understand what the final out come of the US V Wong KIM Ark case finding were? I mean I can go through this with you as much as you want but just to start of were talking about Chinese family that was bought and paid for to come build our railroads in Northern California to the east. That were treated like hell and we would not let them leave until there age got them or they could not work any longer. Here is the last section of the case the most important and realize this is not a understanding of illegal birth right citizenship and the case was never finalized and still to this day is under appeal and Ark was never given citizenship he ended his days under citizenship of Emperor of China.
here is what you are looking for because citizens are the only ones that could own land.
with the intention of returning to the United States, and did return thereto in the month of August, 1895, and applied to the collector of customs to be permitted to land, and that such application was denied upon the sole ground that said Wong in Ark was not a citizen of the United States. [p652]
The case was submitted to the decision of the court upon the following facts agreed by the parties:
That the said Wong Kim Ark was born in the year 1873, at No. 751 Sacramento Street, in the city and county of San Francisco, State of California, United States of America, and [p651] that his mother and father were persons of Chinese descent and subjects of the Emperor of China, and that said Wong Kim Ark was and is a laborer.
That, at the time of his said birth, his mother and father were domiciled residents of the United States, and had established and enjoyed a permanent domicil and residence therein at said city and county of San Francisco, State aforesaid.
That said mother and father of said Wong Kim Ark continued to reside and remain in the United States until the year 1890, when they departed for China.
That during all the time of their said residence in the United States as domiciled residents therein, the said mother and father of said Wong Kim Ark were engaged in the prosecution of business, and were never engaged in any diplomatic or official capacity under the Emperor of China.
That ever since the birth of said Wong Kim Ark, at the time and place hereinbefore stated and stipulated, he has had but one residence, to-wit, a residence in said State of California, in the United States of America, and that he has never changed or lost said residence or gained or acquired another residence, and there resided claiming to be a citizen of the United States.
That, in the year 1890 the said Wong Kim Ark departed for China upon a temporary visit and with the intention of returning to the United States, and did return thereto on July 26, 1890, on the steamship Gaelic, and was permitted to enter the United States by the collector of customs upon the sole ground that he was a native-born citizen of the United States.
That after his said return, the said Wong Kim Ark remained in the United States, claiming to be a citizen thereof, until the year 1894, when he again departed for China upon a temporary visit, and with the intention of returning to the United States, and did return thereto in the month of August, 1895, and applied to the collector of customs to be permitted to land, and that such application was denied upon the sole ground that said Wong in Ark was not a citizen of the United States. [p652]
That said Wong Kim Ark has not, either by himself or his parents acting for him, ever renounced his allegiance to the United States, and that he has never done or committed any act or thing to exclude him therefrom.
The court ordered Wong Kim Ark to be discharged, upon the ground that he was a citizen of the United States. 1 Fed.Rep. 382. The United States appealed to this court, and the appellee was admitted to bail pending the appeal.