Originally Posted by king kong

If anyone in any of these forums has any exchange of words with those who actually make policy, should they actually debate this bill its time to ask that we not be eligible for grants, and financial aid and blah blah blah excluding private loans. If we take away these benefits from ourselves we cant be looked at as stealing from Americans. Right now the argument is if immigrants get that then Americans don't. Well i would rather have DA and no financial help then nothing which is what we currently have and will have till hell actually freezes over, unless we change the debate. Now that gives the GOP less to grovel about but its not a promise for DA at all, the next argument and you can quote me is that we will steal from the American job market. Lazy is lazy no matter what nation the passport but politicians don't see it that way. Asking for less appropriations in DA such as financial aid will give the bill some traction and some much needed national attention however i still believe in this economy this bill has absolutely no hope what so ever.
Now many in here will be upset that i said we should be asking for less, get over it. We aren't exactly willing to compromise much either, understood we don't have much to compromise with at all but financial assistance eligibility is one card in our hand we can risk getting rid of for the greater cause. Things we cant give up, the age max and min, the 0 criminal record requirement, the requirement to finish school or join the armed services. The only other card we have in our hand which we might consider giving up as well is the possibility of future citizenship. Ill take a life time green card over nothing any day.
Remember currently we have NOTHING, tomorrow we will have NOTHING, 10 years from now we will have guess what, NOTHING. If the talks happen again its time to be willing to negotiate the finer details which we as Dream beneficiaries can live without.