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Originally Posted by justjohnjustice1988
If we had a working immigration system, I would have no problem with a secure community program.
We need to get rid of all the bad immigrants that give us a bad name. They don't deserve any kind of sympathy because:
1. They are not supposed to be here (legally)
2. They were aware of committing a unlawful act by crossing the border, unlike us.
3. They are behaving badly, such as creating violence or burdening society.
If we all had a residents card, I wouldn't mind having with me at all times. What we need is a system that is actually inforced.
After immigration reform happens, there needs to be a real crack down of employers that hire undocumented workers because if that is not fixed, people will continue to come for oportunities.
Give the undocumented population a chance that is already here and literally seal the border after it against illegal immigration. Simple as that and you get a bill passed!
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We'll get ours, so damned be everyone else?
I must disagree with you on several points. Illegals were already given amnesty back in the 80s under the Reagan administration in return for tougher restrictions against new illegals. Those who were given amnesty could have turned their backs on those of us who came after them. The majority didn't. Should we spit in their faces by not helping those who come after us?
More importantly though I disagree that our parents, or indeed anyone, broke a law by migrating here. Our parents broke legislation to be sure, but not law. When law is broken there is a victim who has suffered damages to themselves or their property. Legislation on the otherhand all too often attempts to give punishment to victimless actions. No one was or is hurt by our migration.
Should we tolerate immigrants who break the law? Who kill or steal? No. But neither should we tolerate citizens who do so. The issue is exclusive of one's migration status though.
Illegal immigration shall not stop as long as Congress attempts to set the price of migration above the market price. The very idea that one need documents to travel is an invention only a few decades old.
It was not until WW1 that we began to see the current system in place.
The immigration system needs not only reform, but shouldn't exist at all. Not in the sense that it's conceived as today at least. We shouldn't have to be educated at a certain level, serve in the military, or even know English.
If compromise must be made in policy, okay. Baby steps are better than no steps. But it is another thing to compromise the end goal. Granted, I may be wrong, but I assume that the goal is not only to gain legal status for ourselves, but to allow every man or woman who wants to come to do so.