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Originally Posted by Frank Knight
We'll get ours, so damned be everyone else?
I must disagree with you on several points. Illegals were already given amnesty back in the 80s under the Reagan administration in return for tougher restrictions against new illegals. Those who were given amnesty could have turned their backs on those of us who came after them. The majority didn't. Should we spit in their faces by not helping those who come after us?
More importantly though I disagree that our parents, or indeed anyone, broke a law by migrating here. Our parents broke legislation to be sure, but not law. When law is broken there is a victim who has suffered damages to themselves or their property. Legislation on the otherhand all too often attempts to give punishment to victimless actions. No one was or is hurt by our migration.
Should we tolerate immigrants who break the law? Who kill or steal? No. But neither should we tolerate citizens who do so. The issue is exclusive of one's migration status though.
Illegal immigration shall not stop as long as Congress attempts to set the price of migration above the market price. The very idea that one need documents to travel is an invention only a few decades old. It was not until WW1 that we began to see the current system in place.
The immigration system needs not only reform, but shouldn't exist at all. Not in the sense that it's conceived as today at least. We shouldn't have to be educated at a certain level, serve in the military, or even know English.
If compromise must be made in policy, okay. Baby steps are better than no steps. But it is another thing to compromise the end goal. Granted, I may be wrong, but I assume that the goal is not only to gain legal status for ourselves, but to allow every man or woman who wants to come to do so. |
WHAT?! Are you freaking serious? So now no one needs documents to travel to other countries?!
Listen hippie and open borders advocate! This country and any other country on the face of the planet should and must have the right to control its borders, otherwise it is not a country.
I don't think everyone that wants to come to America should just show up. That was the case before WW1 but things have changed. Back in the day there was less crowding. Now school systems are burdened by heavy immigration. Students don't get the necessary teacher on student attention because class sizes are too big.
The reason why people kept coming here after the 80s amnesty was because the system continued to encourage immigration and cheap labor.
Once I have my residents card in my hand, I will only know one country: the United States of America.
I was brought here by my father and this country doesn't owe me a penny. But if I am lucky and fortunate enough to one day become a citizen, I will do my best to to make this country work like it should.
The truth is us undocumented workers are exploited and paid less, which in turn depresses wages everywhere else. It's the truth and I know it, and so should you.
And no! Not everyone that wants to come here should be able to come. The Dreamers are a special case that shouldn't be mixed in with the 20-50 year old immigrants that come here and don't even learn English. I'm sorry but if I was in Mexico and we all of a sudden had an influx of, let's say, French people, we would all expect them to respect their new homeland and learn the language.
If you are over 20 and don't know English yet, you are lazy. I learned English because I knew it was the language of this land.
So, go and sing "cumbayah" with your extreme hippie friends. If you don't like the fact that this country has laws, go somewhere else where being an anarchist is legal.
I am proud to say that I love this country, even if it isn't perfect. You obviously don't. How sad! You shouldn't even take advantage of what happens with Obama's order, after all you want no laws on the books regarding immigration. And I thought the Tea Party people were cray cray!