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10-02-2012, 06:53 PM
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kabs
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Originally Posted by IamAman View Post
Oh give it up. This "they're all the same" mentality is a cop-out and why Latinos, the largest minority group in the country along with other immigrants don't participate in politics and the same people who hate them keep getting re-elected.

They are NOT the same. Go ask the 120,000 people who applied for DACA. Mittens has said out loud he wants you to self deport and he will VETO the Dream Act. So here you have the President who did what was possible given the political climate to help at least some of the people in need (unfortunately not me as I am old) and you have one who wants to not only not pass anything, but make life even harder so you'll "self deport".

So no, you're not clever with your "they're all the same" comment. Far from it. And hey, since you're not a fan of the president and have an avatar mocking him the way the right winger and the Tea Partiers do, is it safe to assume you're not going to use DACA? I mean, they're all the same so why take something from someone you don't like?
Listen, immigration is the 3rd rail of politics. Nobody wants to touch it. GWB tried for Comprehensive Immigration reform although that mess was half-hearted (remember the failure of 2007).

Obama and the Democrats had a STRONG majority from 2008 - 2010 and they didn't get it done in 2010 either. Obama could have easily issued an Executive Order after the failure of the Dream Act in 2010, 2011, etc. It wasn't as if people did not talk about this as an option.

Why do it now... in June? Right after Marco Rubio was all talk about the STARS Act? Ironically, only he started talking about immigration right before the elections too. Then of COURSE the Republican party started running their anti-immigration stance back since they didn't want to look like chumps in FL.

Politicians have been playing footsie on immigration issues for years. Decades. IF Democrats and Republicans wanted to do immigration, they could have. There were people on both sides of the aisle willing to do it and compromise.

Politicians make moves only when it is politically expedient in their interest to do so. Otherwise, why ELSE would the Democrats wait until the very last hour to try to pass the Dream Act in the lame duck in 2010????? Like seriously.

Nobody is voting for Mitt Romney because a) we can't vote (lol) b) Republicans are a whole lot worse, obviously.

I just don't think Obama did this out of the goodness of his heart when he's deported the most illegal immigrants ever and had shown NO signs of moving on immigration UNTIL Rubio entered in the picture with the STARS Act.
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