Originally Posted by desice

I'm really confused by what you're saying:

First of all, the only person to say that the vote was a motion to end debate was me. I think Ianus said twice that CSPAN said it was a "vote to limit debate and amendments." (In the Cspan-2 thread)

Second of all: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/113-2013/s164

Ianus gave you a quote straight off CSPAN, so no offense, but maybe you just have suck at interpreting information given to you via live updates.