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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith
Millions of people are waiting in line entering legally but the majority of them a good 61% will eventually become illegal aliens themselves. Many people here are overstayers. The constitution itself says whoever is born here is entitled for citizen ship. Why shouldn't children of illegal aliens obtained citizenship? What did you do exactly to earn this citizenship anyway? Just because Youre parents were born here?
Many kids if illegal aliens become assimilated with the already established society here. Your ancestor here from somewhere and through that , you assimilated just find. Illegal aliens are contributing to the American society, reports after reports show illegal aliens are paying taxes. Many of them if not the majority just want to work.
With DACers feeling entitled, I do agree with you there. Me myself have argued about that many times here but that's only the result American society has birthen them. You yourself have shown that entitlement with this post. What federal crime have illegal aliens done exactly that is worse than many of the crimes you personally have committed with out retribution?
Imagine if American people took that stance with many of the crimes committed with out knowing.
" people who robbed other peoples Wi-Fi should be sent to jail!! People pirating content is sick and they outta be arrested!!"
You yourself should understand how entitled most Americans feel. So dreamers feeling the same way shouldn't be a surprise to you.
This country was after all founded on immigration and there was a point where this country immigration system wasn't so complicated that millions of people would comehere easily . Imagine if current immigration policies had existed even 200 years ago ? I doubt your parents would be here.
But before you begin to blame illegal aliens you have to understand why they're even coming here as so. you can't just blindly behind the law " they're illegal and that's all. What part of illegal and not legal do you get" is stuff the opposite side uses alot.
You need to understand why policies like NAFTA is screwing the lower countries over and why Americans trust for drugs is causing this war on drugs that has affected thousands of people. Illegal immigration also exist because of the many business here that hire them in the first place. Why not get armed against them?
The argument that illegal aliens are taking jobs away is also silly on the fact that companies like Wal-Mart enter towns, destroy their markets, and outsource millions of jobs overseas. I don't see you complaning about then or the many companies who are getting money back in their tax because they used so many loopsholes.
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You have made quite a few assumptions. First and foremost, I have no criminal record. I have never committed a federal offense, or a crime under any jurisdiction. Why would you assume I am a criminal? However, if I were, it would be irrelevant. Or, are you suggesting we should condone illegal immigration simply because we have citizen scofflaws?
Furthermore, had I committed a federal crime, if caught, I would expect punishment. Actions have consequences. If I committed ID theft, fraud, or tax evasion (all federal offenses), as an adult of sound mind, I realize if caught, I will be arrested and prosecuted. If convicted, I will serve time in a federal penitentiary. It's just that simple.
Millions of U.S. citizens are incarcerated; because, in this country, adults are held accountable for violating the law. Are you suggesting we should exempt illegal aliens? Should they be absolved, while citizens are punished? I'm not sure I am following your train of thought. Perhaps you will expound.
I did not mention Birthright Citizenship, crimes committed by illegal aliens, assimilation, contributions, taxes, jobs, or corporations. They are not germane to the topic of this thread. You replied to my initial post on this forum. You have no knowledge of my stance on those issues. Why would you presume to know my opinion?
The U.S. welcomes more legal immigrants than all other countries combined. We have a very generous policy. Is there room for improvement? Absolutely! But, if it were impossible to enter this country through legal channels, please explain how 40 % of illegal aliens are visa overstays. They were issued visas. However, they chose to ignore the terms. That was their decision. If the terms required leaving after a specified period, and the visa holder chose to stay, that is their fault, not the U.S. government. This country is under no obligation to extend visas or grant foreign nationals permission to stay.
Millions chose to enter without inspection. Again, that was their decision. They knew they entered in violation of U.S. immigration laws. They didn't care. Why should they be rewarded with legalization? How does rewarding lawlessness benefit a country?
Amnesty was granted to 3 million in 1986. Citizens were given the same promises we hear today. Then, as now, we were told with the passage of that law, immigration would be strictly enforced, employers would face steep penalties, and the borders would be secured. Ted Kennedy gave a passionate speech, in which he stated resolutely, that would be the LAST time we would need to address the issue of illegal immigration. U.S. immigration laws aren't broken. They are simply not enforced. Otherwise, we would not have untold millions living here illegally.
Now, rather than 3 million, we have 11+ million. Actually, no one knows the true number. Why should any citizen believe CIR would be enforced, given the abysmal failure of the current law? How many times should citizens fall for this ruse?
As a sovereign nation, we are entitled to dictate the terms of our immigration policies. Some applicants are approved, while others are denied. That is our prerogative. Immigration policies should benefit this country. We have no legal or moral obligation to fulfill the aspirations of foreign nationals. Nor are we here to accommodate the impoverished of the world.
Black Americans did not enter another country illegally to flee from oppressive Jim Crow laws. They didn't feel entitled to demand acceptance, legalization, and a path to citizenship in a foreign land. No, they remained in THEIR country and fought and
died for their rights. I fail to understand why illegal aliens cannot do the same in their countries of origin.