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Originally Posted by Demise
Run on the promise of reforming immigration within 100 days and getting Dream Act while he was still in the senate.
Do nothing about immigration for the first two years where you did hold a super majority for a few months.
Have one vote on the dream act in each chamber on the very very end of the congressional session.
Refuse to use the nuclear option to get it passed. (That's right kiddies, if the senate democratic leadership did have some balls in 2010 we'd all be thinking about filing for permanent residence now after being almost done with our temp visas. Only thing needed there was to flip off the antis and call for will of the majority to be effective).
Put DACA up 5 months before elections when most immigrant groups have outright denounced you (ideal time for it - right before elections but far enough that it cannot be outright called out as an election stunt, and most applicants would still be waiting by then, putting pressure on any USC relatives to vote for him so Mr. Self-deport doesn't get the presidency).
Promise to do more executively.
Delay constantly (and honestly lets face it - he will continue delaying. I'll say that nothing will get done until after the elections, after this congressional sessions even. If I am to put bets down - nothing will get done before May of next year).
Honestly, I miss George Bush.
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First and foremost realize that politics and the economy are dynamic. Obama ran a campaign on "immigration reform" which we all know is nothing more than politics and the economy.There was absolutely no way that the Dems could pass CIR in the first 2 years of Obama's presidency even with a super majority. The unemployment rate in the US in 2009-2010 was about 10% for a good portion of it.
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000
Beneficiaries of CIR would like to think its all about them, but however, when the unemployment rate is 2.5x its norm and the financial crisis of 2008 was worst than the great depression
(here) there is NO way that any politician would think about adding 12 million previously illegal workers into the workforce. Period.
So not only are millions upon millions of Americans unemployed, you expect the senate Democrats to change the rules of the senate just to pass a bill that would add more workers to the work force?????? Seriously????
The announcement of DACA is political, so is the campaign for CIR and so is the campaign against CIR. Its all politics. You should be absolutely grateful that Obama held DACA in his back pocket until his reelection. The economy was still trash, the tea party was gaining power, and Democrats got swamped in the Midterm elections. By enacting DACA Obama widened the margin of Hispanic and Asian voters which carried him over the top since he nearly completely lost the white vote. That was a great political move for him and a great move for us. If Obama couldn't have pulled the margins he did I wonder how you all would be doing under a Mitt Romney presidency. Remember, that was actually close to being a reality..
So now Obama wins 2012. Summer 2013 even with unemployment stubbornly high and republicans filibustering everything, the senate manages to pass CIR. Then the Nativist, tea party republicans in the house sit on it and do nothing. If you want to call someone spineless, weak, an asshole etc etc, your comments should be directed towards them. The irony of anyone on this forum insulting Obama is that you are throwing the same insults at him that your enemies are. When I read through those posts I thought I was on a tea party blog or something. Its ridiculous.
Obama sits back and gives House Republicans all the room they need so that they can't give any excuses that Obama was meddling. And they still do nothing. Obama's biggest mistakes were giving himself self-imposed deadlines and misjudging the impact of his EO in this election. Those were political missteps. However, he could make it worse by enacting the EO's and then losing the senate. Even if Dems are already poised to lose , giving Republicans more ammo to campaign on in states that are typically red and will determine the election is a dumb move.
I applaud the president for delaying the action as I always thought it was a foolish move to do it in a midterm election year and I'm confident that he will sign the Executive Orders