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10-28-2015, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by IamAman View Post
I say he comes off as disingenuous because I've listened to the man talk. Have you? Sure during an election season when he's running for the office he has softened his tone and says he wants to help undocumented and all of a sudden after voting against it when it counted is for it but his general view on immigration is that new immigrants drive down wages and hurt the American worker. This is the same bullshit that Republicans have pushed and I for one don't want to support a guy who wants to depress people who will come after me. Read for yourself. http://thinkprogress.org/politics/20...s-immigration/

I appreciate that if elected he would be continuing DACA and that's why I would still rather have him than any Republican but when he thinks that new immigrants hurt American workers, that shows where his heart really is. How can you not see that? Do you think that in his mind he's just talking about "those other immigrants"? It's as if I say "black people drive up crime and we don't want them in our neighborhood, but hey, you black people who are already here are cool and I support your right to be here".

To your points:
1. Great! He finally evolved in 2010 and atoned for the mistakes of his youth except that 2007 was just 3 years earlier and 3 years of our lives apparently didn't mean anything to him.
2. Well yes, of course he supports Obama's plans, he's running for president. Actions speak louder than words. His action when it counted in 2007 was to say no.
3. Again, great! But that doesn't change 2007 and he and people like you STILL defend it. Has he apologized for it? Of course not.

Say what you want about Obama's first term, but he is the only president in History to mention us in the state of the union speech and sign those executive actions. He ran on Obamacare primarily and immigration was secondary. He bit more than he could chew but at least when it's come up to the plate he has always voted for immigration reform.

I just don't get this love affair with Bernie here. He's done nothing for us and yet people just post stuff about him - in the news section even.
You do realize daca was just a political move for votes right ? Obama was a waste , I support him for all his other policies but as far as immigration goes he's a joke and did nothing . I am extremely grateful for daca , however since you're the one speaking about where these candidates hearts really are at, Obama could give a fuck less about us
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