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Originally Posted by johnfreyan
Listen, Mr. Stockholm Syndrome. You are decidedly not in the same position as your college classmates on this topic. The basis of Bernster's argument is that immigrants = lower wages + less jobs (yes, this includes you), because we take away jobs from Americans (no, this doesn't include you). This is a Tantonite, anti-immigrant bullshit that has been passed around since the time of Alien and Sedition Act, and it has been debunked many, MANY times.
The economy doesn't work like Sim City 2000; "jobs" is not like a crate of apples. You being in America does not translate into less jobs and lower wages for Americans. In fact, if you're skilled/educated (like many of us are or are on track to be), you being employed here actually *generate* jobs.
So enough with the "we" shit. Your American citizen classmates and you are NOT in a same position as far as Bernster is concerned. When he's talkin about immigrants depressing wages and taking jobs away, he's talking about YOU.
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So, what do you recommend?
Bernie is shit.
Hillary is shit (don't worry, she too has anti-immigrant skeletons in her closet if you dig deep enough, among and entire legion of other skeletons).
Republicans are shit (for starters they all want to get rid of DACA, even Rubio is going full Hitler just to have any shot at the nomination and that guy would take a horse cock up his ass if it gave him 1% greater approval rating).
If it wasn't for the fact democrats need Hispanic vote we'd all have our doors kicked down by ICE, and DACA would've never existed. Don't worry, none of them will ever pass CIR because the conservatives need a boogeyman and since they can't really use blacks or Jews anymore they go for the Mexicans, and liberals know that the moment Jerry Sanchez doesn't have to worry about his mother and older brother Juan getting deported he's free to focus on other issues where he might just vote for the republicans.
Republicans like to scare about democrats wanting to make more voters for themselves, but on average permanent residents take forever to naturalize (generally around 10 years or so, unless compelled to do so for other reasons, generally family sponsorship), not to mention the 10 year wait generally proposed before you can even get a green card anyways. Basically - you're more valuable as a leash to keep your friends and relatives as democrats than anything else, they'll toss you a vote every so often when it has 0 chances of passing only to pretend they give a shit. What, you think they voted for DA in the lame duck session for no reason? Even Michelle's fucking nutrition bill upstaged us. They had a 60 vote majority and could've bribed some moderate republicans to vote yes to counteract the democrats who'd vote no (and who luckily are all dead or no longer in office).
Few more lost elections and they might just give up because it's nigh-impossible to get citizen hispanics to get off their asses to the election booths, they could carry Texas if they did, but they don't. We'll lose our utility and they'd do nothing to stop deportations, they'll just let republicans do that.
If nothing else you made up my mind. This situation is simply hopeless the ship is sinking and I want off. I was offered a job in Florida doing shit completely unrelated to my degree (and please, don't kid yourself that college will get you anywhere anymore without someone to put their neck out for you), and I'll take it because my immigration bullshit needs fixing hardcore, and well, good luck to all of you.